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Old February 15 2014, 03:34 PM   #16
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Re: House of Cards - Season 2 (Discussion & Possible Spoilers)

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Unlike the Russo killing, it didn't really seem to have a rationale (risk/opportunity factor) and seemed a bit like a play for shock value.
True, but it's very much in tune with the British original. I wonder whether the second season will loosely follow the events of To Play the King, or if they'll make a break from the original at this point and try to tell their own story. They certainly can't have Underwood get into a spat with with the King, that's for sure.
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Old February 16 2014, 12:57 AM   #17
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Unlike the Russo killing, it didn't really seem to have a rationale (risk/opportunity factor) and seemed a bit like a play for shock value.
True, but it's very much in tune with the British original. I wonder whether the second season will loosely follow the events of To Play the King, or if they'll make a break from the original at this point and try to tell their own story. They certainly can't have Underwood get into a spat with with the King, that's for sure.
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Old February 16 2014, 05:01 AM   #18
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Just finished 2x09. It was directed by Jodie Foster.

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All I have to say is poor Freddy. He's a good guy and by far the coolest character on the show. He and his rib joint were a nice little sojourn from the political grind for both Frank and the audience. It was a shame he had to get mixed up in everything and ultimately get brought down. Something told me that his newfound fame would go sour, but I didn't know what would happen or how, or that it would get this serious. At the end of the day though, Freddy, in his usual cool fashion just walks away.

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Old February 16 2014, 05:05 AM   #19
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I wondered why the Underwoods didn't move into the Vice Presidential palace, but looking at pictures, I guess it wasn't in the show's budget.

And no product placement for the Play Station this season? I guess we're onto iPads and the Windows Phone now.
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Old February 16 2014, 04:19 PM   #20
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I wondered why the Underwoods didn't move into the Vice Presidential palace, but looking at pictures, I guess it wasn't in the show's budget.

And no product placement for the Play Station this season? I guess we're onto iPads and the Windows Phone now.
I would have hated to live on that street since he became VP.
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Old February 16 2014, 05:34 PM   #21
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I didn't expect to finish watching the season last night but I did. I won't spill any details but I'll tell you how I felt... Things got so riveting towards the end that I just couldn't hold off and go to bed. And what an ending it was, right up to that last shot. If the show had ended with Chapter 26, it would have been the perfect cap to the series. I can't wait to see everyone's reactions.

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Old February 16 2014, 05:40 PM   #22
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I wondered why the Underwoods didn't move into the Vice Presidential palace, but looking at pictures, I guess it wasn't in the show's budget.


I finished the season 2 because I have no self-control and binged. An incredible ride with a few twists turns along the way, especially


I was sadden by the elimination of both Freddy and Adam from the storyline (mostly because I love both Reg E. Cathey and Ben Daniels) but that was the natural progression considering season 2's endgame (not there was much to do with Adam anyways beyond what they did do).

The final shot was brilliant


I can't wait for season 3.
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Old February 16 2014, 06:03 PM   #23
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And good point about having the Underwoods stay in their townhouse. That occurred to me too, but with the show's bigger budget, I figured that maybe they could have done something more.



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I'm undecided as to whether or not events in the last two episodes played out too perfectly but I enjoyed everything none the less. Frank doesn't seem very presidential but he's a compelling character and I can't wait to see how he does as President. If my understanding is correct, he can serve for the remainder of the current term plus two more, making it possible for him to stay in office for 10 years. And that's assuming he doesn't manipulate congress into changing the constitution. I don't know if he'll stick around that long though. Maybe he'll get his comeuppance. He has nowhere else to go but down. Or maybe he won't. He's Frank Underwood after all.
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Old February 17 2014, 07:38 AM   #24
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Like the others, I had to binge every episode, too. I have no willpower.

Now, on to some of the nitty gritties...

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Old February 17 2014, 05:46 PM   #25
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Just finished watching a few minutes ago. Another fantastic season, with a few quibbles:

Doug really got slaughtered this season. He was one of my favorite characters of the first season and to see him just sniffing around like a puppy dog and fighting for "dad's" affection was a disservice to how compelling he was written last year.

My only other complaint is that I missed what Zoe's side of the story brought to the story even if I knew there was no way she was going to survive. Her unkempt white knight wasn't nearly as interesting and while this hacker fella is more-so, but not exactly a comparable protagonist.

Oh, and where was the catchphrase? I figured they were holding out for the biggest effect but then it never came.
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Old February 17 2014, 07:49 PM   #26
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While strong overall, there are still elements that don't make sense and some moves that were way easier than they should have been. Walker's 11th-hour reconciliation with Frank rings pretty hollow. He even said that Frank's letter didn't rebuild trust, it just gave them a starting point and he only cared about "results." Well, what results did Frank get him? Jack and shit, from what I can tell. There's basically no reason for Walker to turn around and act like he and Frank are buddies again, except that, I suppose, everyone else has turned on him and Frank was literally his only friend. I'm also just not sure I buy this particular scandal as being nasty enough to bring down a President. Okay, so Chinese money was funneled through an energy magnate and an Indian casino into PACs which helped Democrats and..? That just doesn't strike me as shady enough for the general public to give a damn. Maybe it was intentional, but you never got a sense for how the public felt. The single-digit approval ratings are just numbers (and not very realistic, mind you.) I could see him going down into the 20s, maybe. But this scandal was just not "sexy" enough to be a career-ender, in my opinion. I also think a modern public would be more accepting of a President taking antidepressants (or whatever) and not have that be a huge deal.

I also could tell from Rachel's first meeting with the girl on the bus that there was gonna be "something" there. Just the way they played it. The way Rachel cut her out was heartbreaking.

Doug is obviously dead. That was his body they showed in the woods, eyes open and body cold. He's not coming back.

As for what this means for Rachel, isn't she the only person still alive (besides Frank) who knows what happened to Russo? Let's face it, the VP's Chief of Staff spending all this time keeping tabs on a prostitute, setting her up with a new life, just screams "cover-up." Once the details of that come out, people will start asking questions. Between her, the hacker, Lucas, Janine, the deaths of Zoe, Doug, and Russo, there's a lot of info to pile up once you start digging. The seeds of Frank's downfall have been sown, so I suspect next season will be all about him having to contend with that.

One thing I don't get is how Gavin has any hold over the guy he's answering to. Isn't he bound for federal prison if he doesn't play ball? No one gave a fuck what Lucas knew, so why should anyone give a fuck what a known government-hating anarchist says? Imagine some random dude from Anonymous claimed the newly-minted President was (essentially) a serial killer. No one's going to listen to that. Dude can be "disappeared" into the deepest pits of Gitmo or just a solitary cell in a remote prison. Frank is basically not a guy to fuck with now, which gives me some concern about how they could orchestrate his fall. Sure, he could get careless and sloppy, but that's a cheap way out. I want him to be beaten by people who are less powerful but smarter and more determined. I don't think Frank is actually that smart. I think he's very charismatic and he knows how to read people, but not a man of unusually high intelligence. Gavin, for instance, is probably much smarter. Actually, I suspect Claire outclasses frank in terms of raw intelligence, he's just more ruthless.

I'd like to talk more about Claire's arc in this season but I'll save it for a future post.
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Old February 17 2014, 10:06 PM   #27
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During the entrapment operation with Lucas, he had managed to install a back door into phone databases that he and presumably others now had access to willy nilly. Presumably, especially in the world before our recent cyber-scandals, this is a bit of an issue for all parties involved.
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Old February 18 2014, 03:45 PM   #28
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One of the biggest suprises outside of Zoe's death this season was Frank and Claire's 3-way with Beechum. That Frances is also bi-sexual adds even more intrigue to his character and more of a potential for problems in the future.
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Old February 23 2014, 01:57 AM   #30
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I wonder why the kept the character of Christina Gallagher around this season? She had almost nothing to do and was let go between episodes.

The ending was inevitable, although I think this season did a better job than season one at not depicting Frank as all-knowing and invincible (even if he got everything he wanted in the end, there was a lot more desperate maneuvering this year).
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