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Old February 16 2014, 02:34 PM   #16
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I gave this one a 6; not a great or even pretty good episode; just ok.

To bad this was the first episode to be broadcast.
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Old February 16 2014, 07:24 PM   #17
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I love the Man Trap. It's not perfect but I loved the way it showcased the supporting cast and the way the monster plot unfolded. My favourtie Rand episode. 8/10
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Old February 16 2014, 07:57 PM   #18
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You know, I'd go up to 7 due to showing the crew doing things, not just saying "Aye" on the bridge. I like the atmospheric music too. They sure coulda not killed it, a la horta. I've said that recently in some thread, so will not go on now.
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Old February 17 2014, 03:53 AM   #19
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TRIVIA :
One of Johnson's versions of the script had Crater surviving the episode, and requesting to be marooned on the planet so he can spend the rest of his days searching for more of the creatures.
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Old February 17 2014, 08:15 AM   #20
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The biggest question here is: what ability did the creature actually have? The evidence onscreen doesn't suggest an actual shape-changing being because it's able to appear differently to different people at the same time. So it must be something hypnotic as well as the ability to create convincing illusion.
True, but that invites the question of why no one making transporter scans or viewing security monitors ever saw a fuzzy creature with suckers all over it and hit the alarm. (People who couldn't conceivably be in range of the creature's hypnosis.) I can forgive the transporter scans as the concept was likely still in infancy. But the security monitors or any other sort of remote viewing device? Seriously?

I don't like the mental/hypnotic version of "shape-shifters". When used as antagonists for more than a single encounter, invariably plot holes crop up. Usually the same ones every time.

I like the early title of the episode, "The Unreal McCoy", better than the one we got, too.
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Old February 17 2014, 09:09 AM   #21
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It's possible that the creature possessed a wide telepathic field that also monkeyed with electronics so security feeds went fuzzy. As far as transporters go, while it doesn't seem keyed to individuals, you would have thought that an automatic alarm bell should start ringing if the transporter detects the unknown DNA of a different species unless it has been given prior warning.
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Old February 17 2014, 11:13 AM   #22
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Well it only does the multiple illusion once, with Kirk, McCoy and Green. After that it seems to have clued in not to do it again in front of groups and sticks to one illusion at a time.
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Old February 17 2014, 08:35 PM   #23
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One thing I liked about the episode is the scene where Dr. Crater is hit with a phaser on stun. His slow talking was an interesting way to show him recovering from being stunned.
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Old February 18 2014, 02:37 AM   #24
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This is not one of the stronger entries among the earlier episodes at least story wise, and accordingly, many of those involved with the show bemoan the fact that it was chosen as the premiere. The show has kind of a spooky Outer Limits type vibe, complete with a wicked-looking monster which was probably what the network felt audiences of the time wanted to see. Also the supporting players in this episode such as Sulu, Uhura and Rand each get some great character moments. Sadly, this would become the exception rather than the rule for most of the series.
"The Man Trap" has often been compared unfavorably with episodes such as "The Devil in the Dark" because the Enterprise crew sees the monster as something that must be killed instead of trying to communicate with it and come to mutual terms, which is usually in conflict with later ST philosophy. However, this is not Kirk and co.'s fault. The creature didn't give them a chance to be pacifistic regarding it. Indeed, "Nancy" behaves like a sociopathic predator, much like a black widow spider, concerned only with its own needs. It is aware of the intelligence and emotions of the human characters, but exploits them, as in the case of McCoy's latent feelings for it. It even kills Crater when it has no more use for him. Perhaps this is a species the galaxy is better off without.
This segment benefits greatly from the contributions of guest star Alfred Ryder, who has played many memorably creepy roles on TV. These include the ghost of a German U-Boat captain, a fugitive Nazi war criminal, and the leader of the alien invasion force on the series THE INVADERS.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:38 PM   #25
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It might have gotten away with it again if it hadn't killed Green.
Nancy: "I might have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for that meddling crew and their Vulcan."
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Old February 21 2014, 05:18 AM   #26
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I give it a strong and enjoyable 6 though maybe it can be argued it deserves a little more.

I liked seeing the day players get in some mileage; both Uhura and Rand get in some camera time and Sulu demonstrates his amiable personality. Another minor point that I think is a good touch is the scene where McCoy, unable to sleep, calls the bridge. We see Kirk snacking while on duty, in a sort of relaxed tone. Throw in the drama and near shocking unveiling of the creature, thanks to Spock's crude-but-effective method....we see a side of McCoy that I think goes a long way into the series...through Miri and right down to The Empath. Just my take.

Besides, I tend to enjoy any episode when there's a "handsome woman" at hand.

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Old February 21 2014, 05:21 AM   #27
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Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but wasn't Jeanne Bal (Nancy Crater) one of the actresses originally considered for the role of a Number One?
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Old February 21 2014, 05:26 AM   #28
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Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but wasn't Jeanne Bal (Nancy Crater) one of the actresses originally considered for the role of a Number One?
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.co...rst-pilot.html

She shows up in a memo I found, but I think there was really only one seriously considered choice for the part (i.e. Majel).
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