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Old February 26 2014, 10:43 AM   #91
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^ Where did you see that? Amazon (the US version) has no entry for S6 yet.
I'm inferring the date. Both the Blu-ray.com UK and Amazon UK pages for S6 currently list June 16th as the release date, so that means we will most likely get it a day later in the U.S.
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Old March 2 2014, 08:46 PM   #92
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On the subject of glimpses of DS9 in HD, has everyone seen this yet ?
Seeing the missing registry number on the Galaxy-class ship makes me groan... the omission would be that much worse in HD!
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Old March 5 2014, 05:37 PM   #93
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Trailer is apparently imminent, according to TrekCore:

"Time to reinforce the servers in preparation for the debut of the #TNGS6 Blu-ray trailer... #Birthright #GoNiners"
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Old March 5 2014, 06:08 PM   #94
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Old March 5 2014, 06:20 PM   #95
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On the subject of glimpses of DS9 in HD, has everyone seen this yet ?
Seeing the missing registry number on the Galaxy-class ship makes me groan... the omission would be that much worse in HD!
IIRC, during the Dominion war, there were many Galaxy-class ships that were literally rushed into battle at the last minute, possibly not even structurally complete. So it may not be a stretch to see that some of them don't even have registry numbers or names.
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Old March 5 2014, 06:21 PM   #96
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
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Old March 5 2014, 06:39 PM   #97
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
This project is over 2 years old, and CBS-D's approach to the remaster is news to you? There would be a run on CBS if they did that. Plus creating two different versions of the show is throwing money away.

You must love the Star Wars special editions.
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Old March 5 2014, 06:43 PM   #98
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
Have you seen the blu-rays? I'd take the original, physical model shots and special effects in TNG-HD over the (comparatively) video-game quality CG in TOS-R any day.
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Old March 5 2014, 06:58 PM   #99
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Yeah, take these recomposites for example. What a 'wasted opportunity':

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...a_q_hd_278.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...rt1_hd_303.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...rap_hd_097.jpg

Clearly not up to modern standards.

What these shots need are new angles, more movement, more explosions. That's what today's audience craves.

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Old March 5 2014, 07:14 PM   #100
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
Most of the original effects materials still exist so why waste time and money rendering out new CG? The artists at CBS-D make the model elements look better than anything they could produce in CG without a blockbuster budget.
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Old March 5 2014, 07:34 PM   #101
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Yeah, take these recomposites for example. What a 'wasted opportunity':

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...a_q_hd_278.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...rt1_hd_303.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x...rap_hd_097.jpg

Clearly not up to modern standards.

What these shots need are new angles, more movement, more explosions. That's what today's audience craves.
I don't need more explosions, but new angles, yes. The exact same 'entering orbit' shot gets old as does the same warp-through-the-viewpoint-of-the-neck-with-stars-at-odd-angles shot we see multiple times an episode it seems. Seeing the ship sit there during 'evasive maneuvers' gets old. I don't need more explosions, but better ones that don't look all lifted from the TOS movies would be nice. The first and third shot you linked looked good, but the middle one I would've spruced up.

At the end of the say it feels like they could've done so much more with this. But I also thank God they didn't JJ-Abrams-ize it with a million lens flares and adding breweries inside the ship.
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Old March 5 2014, 07:37 PM   #102
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
Most of the original effects materials still exist so why waste time and money rendering out new CG? The artists at CBS-D make the model elements look better than anything they could produce in CG without a blockbuster budget.
I can economically understand that argument, absolutely. But I was watching TOS-Remastered with my girlfriend a few nights ago, and one of the things I caught was the Enterprise passing by, and being able to see inside the windows into the interior of the ship. That was amazing. That kind of remastering and detail work you can't get with physical models. I'm not asking for that every single shot of the ship, but adding maybe two or three new orbit shots and warp shots with that kind of detail would certainly add a sense of scale to the Enterprise D rather than blank window-lights. With adding two or three new establishing shots, they could mix it up a bit more down the line, and increase visual interest with the detail work.
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Old March 5 2014, 07:42 PM   #103
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Let me guess - they only upgraded the planets, and there are absolutely no new shots of the Enterprise, only recomposites of existing shots, including the through-the-neck-odd-star-angle shots. All of TNG BR is a wasted opportunity. Great to have upgraded color, and better sound, no doubt, but give the option for either original-recomposited effects and new effects with new angles and ships.
This project is over 2 years old, and CBS-D's approach to the remaster is news to you? There would be a run on CBS if they did that. Plus creating two different versions of the show is throwing money away.

You must love the Star Wars special editions.
It's not news, just still a missed opportunity I wish they had taken more advantage of. I was confirming my ho-hum reaction. I'll buy these when they're on sale.

And I cannot stand Star Wars in any form. I can't wait for JJ Abrams to add lens flares all over every single ship, and change the sizes of established ships within the same movie just because they can.
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Old March 5 2014, 07:52 PM   #104
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...But I was watching TOS-Remastered with my girlfriend a few nights ago, and one of the things I caught was the Enterprise passing by, and being able to see inside the windows into the interior of the ship. That was amazing. That kind of remastering and detail work you can't get with physical models...

I'm just going to leave this right here...
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Old March 5 2014, 09:50 PM   #105
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...But I was watching TOS-Remastered with my girlfriend a few nights ago, and one of the things I caught was the Enterprise passing by, and being able to see inside the windows into the interior of the ship. That was amazing. That kind of remastering and detail work you can't get with physical models...

I'm just going to leave this right here...
That's only in the intro. Take a look in any episode so far remastered and look at the windows. Can you see inside any of them? No. Pure light. Check out TOS Remastered at ship flybys. You can see inside the windows.
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