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Old February 16 2014, 05:11 PM   #31
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Earth -- humans and cetaceans.
Well, Earth didn't really need to be "found"--we already knew where it was!
Aren't there at least three sentient species on Earth? There are humans, humpbacks are one cetacean species, and dolphins are another.
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Old February 16 2014, 05:51 PM   #32
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^The question was whether there was more than one. I didn't specify there were only two.
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Old February 16 2014, 06:19 PM   #33
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Excellent job, Deranged Nasat. I really, really, REALLY like this thread - it is one of a very limited number of things (as in, I can't readily remember any others), aside from pictures, that I have ever made a point of copying to my computer to archive.

trampledamage, would this resource merit being stickied, and added to as Trek Lit progresses? And if so, is there any way to move comments #31 and #32 to being comments #2 and #3?
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Old February 17 2014, 12:23 AM   #34
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Deranged Nasat, those photo lists are an incredible resource. I have been wanting to think more about the more obscure Federation races for some time, and your lists are the perfect gateway for doing that. Thank you!
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Old February 18 2014, 04:02 AM   #35
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USS Triumphant wrote: View Post
Excellent job, Deranged Nasat. I really, really, REALLY like this thread - it is one of a very limited number of things (as in, I can't readily remember any others), aside from pictures, that I have ever made a point of copying to my computer to archive.

trampledamage, would this resource merit being stickied, and added to as Trek Lit progresses? And if so, is there any way to move comments #31 and #32 to being comments #2 and #3?
Certainly on the first, shall see what I can figure out on the second
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Old February 18 2014, 04:46 AM   #36
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The software wouldn't let me move the posts out of their chronological position, so I've merged them with the first post.

Hope this doesn't cause any problems.
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Old February 18 2014, 04:59 AM   #37
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Having a new sticky reminded me that we still need a new FAQ. Anyone working on that?
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Old February 18 2014, 12:02 PM   #38
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I love aliens, so this thread is amazing!

Thought I would just throw out another few suggestions:
- Benzenite (mentioned in the DS9 episode where they go undercover as Klingons) a race with breathing tubes--a description that differs them from Benzite (Laporim was at the Academy with Sisko, whilst Mordock was the first Benzite to enter Starfleet in 2364)
- Craynid (from "Saratoga") they were a sort of insectoid race
- Rigel IV (if memory serves) Rigelians from "Starfleet Year One", described as having silvery skin, three-fingered hands, red eyes and a bony ridge on their brow and temples
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Old February 18 2014, 10:59 PM   #39
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^The question was whether there was more than one. I didn't specify there were only two.
You left out the mice.
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Old February 18 2014, 11:50 PM   #40
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Since no one else has mentioned them, I'd like to nominate the Vissians for membership. I have them as part of the first group of worlds to join right after the founding of the Federation, along with Draylax & Denobula (who I have as a founding race of Starfleet but NOT the Federation).
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Old February 19 2014, 04:08 AM   #41
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^You "have" them in what context?
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Old February 19 2014, 06:56 AM   #42
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Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
I love aliens, so this thread is amazing!

Thought I would just throw out another few suggestions:
- Benzenite (mentioned in the DS9 episode where they go undercover as Klingons) a race with breathing tubes--a description that differs them from Benzite (Laporim was at the Academy with Sisko, whilst Mordock was the first Benzite to enter Starfleet in 2364)
- Craynid (from "Saratoga") they were a sort of insectoid race
- Rigel IV (if memory serves) Rigelians from "Starfleet Year One", described as having silvery skin, three-fingered hands, red eyes and a bony ridge on their brow and temples
You may have just kind of blown my mind with the point about Benzenites. Yes, I think the writers intended Laporin to be Benzite, but the breathing tubes line is a little off, and Mordock being the first to enter Starfleet in 2364 is the dealbreaker. Lucky for us () that the actor seems to have mispronounced the line in the excitement of the moment!

It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the Rigel system in Tower of Babel; Christopher, I know you've mentioned the different source materials you drew on for the Rigel system, but I can't remember if you included Starfleet: Year One?
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Old February 19 2014, 12:39 PM   #43
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It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the Rigel system in Tower of Babel; Christopher, I know you've mentioned the different source materials you drew on for the Rigel system, but I can't remember if you included Starfleet: Year One?
I don't know about three fingers, etc, but the simple description of red eyes and silver skin has been used elsewhere, in SCE stories and Stargazer (which, of course, is in a "Broad Strokes" style relationship with the mainstream novel 'verse). Obviously, I don't know what Christopher went with, but I've assumed that the silver skinned red-eyed people are the same race as the yellowish tattooed Rigelians from Enterprise season four, just one of several ethnic variants. We'll see in a month or so, I guess.
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Old February 19 2014, 12:54 PM   #44
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Since no one else has mentioned them, I'd like to nominate the Vissians for membership. I have them as part of the first group of worlds to join right after the founding of the Federation, along with Draylax & Denobula (who I have as a founding race of Starfleet but NOT the Federation).
The Vissians are a possibility. We've seen a Vissian Starfleet officer in SCE (circa 2376), and they're close enough to the Federation core worlds (Brave the Storm places Vissian space right next to Neethian territory, and Neethia is included in the Star Charts). I personally prefer them as a friendly, allied power rather than a member, though. Not all peaceful civilizations will want to join, after all. I also assume that they would need to give cogenitors equal legal status with the majority population in order to meet the criteria for membership, and I don't see their perspective on that issue changing too quickly. Maybe by the 24th Century, but I don't see it as likely by the late 22nd, personally. And their technology is actually superior to the UFP's in many ways, so they wouldn't be enticed to join by the promise of goodies, I'm guessing.
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Old February 19 2014, 04:25 PM   #45
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It'll be interesting to see what we learn about the Rigel system in Tower of Babel; Christopher, I know you've mentioned the different source materials you drew on for the Rigel system, but I can't remember if you included Starfleet: Year One?
No, because that's irreconcilable with Enterprise, and certainly with the ENT novel continuity. However, as Nasat mentioned, there is a red-eyed Rigelian, Folanir Pzial, mentioned as part of the Lovell crew in SCE and Vanguard, and since I'm working in the same continuity as those books, I've acknowledged and explained that variety.
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