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View Poll Results: Rate "The Enemy Within"
1 1 2.70%
2 0 0%
3 0 0%
4 0 0%
5 4 10.81%
6 11 29.73%
7 4 10.81%
8 6 16.22%
9 6 16.22%
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Old February 7 2014, 01:03 PM   #16
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Re: Episode of the Week : The Enemy Within

Five.

Great idea to kick off with, but it never reached its potential.

The evil Kirk was the more interesting half, and the episode analyzed his traits fairly thoroughly. On the other hand, it seemed to imply that the good Kirk was handicapped, but I was never satisfied that an answer was clearly indicated for why that was the case, beyond the general weakening that both halves experienced. Of course, by the title, it advertised itself as about the evil side, instead of both sides equally, and it delivered on that account.

I don't understand in what century Spock's rhetorical question at the end was appropriate.

The whole landing party in peril was a pretty big plot hole for lots of reasons. According to Memory Alpha:

The subplot of Sulu and three other crewmembers stranded on the planet were not present in Matheson's original script, and was added in staff re-writes. Matheson did not like the idea, as he explained, "I hate B-stories. They truly slow the story down. (...) My script stayed entirely with Bill [Shatner] having this trouble of his two selves, on the ship. (...) They added a whole subplot about people down on the planet, ready to freeze to death, because they have [a] transporter functioning problem. (...) I stuck entirely with Bill." [3]
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Old February 7 2014, 01:36 PM   #17
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Re: Episode of the Week : The Enemy Within

Was the 'evil twin' ever done before this?

It seems to have become the progentior of the genre, anyway. Most TV shows that have done the idea since seem to have taken some sort of inspiration from this.

It's arguably lost some of its impact because of this.

Evil Twin plots having become a cliche.

But speaking personally, I still find the setup satisfying.

I really like the idea that it isn't simply a case of "Good Kirk" and "Evil Kirk" -- in fact, both sides of his personality are a part of the sum total that is James T. Kirk, and "Good Kirk" needs his darker characteristics in order to be an effective leader. The so called 'evil' Jim Kirk has got all of Kirk's confidence. One side can not live without the other.
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Old February 7 2014, 03:06 PM   #18
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The inspiration for "The Enemy Within" is the classic Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, but Star Trek used science fiction in retelling the story. That said duplicates, evil or otherwise, had been done before in comics at least. Superman had been duplicated in good and evil forms. Mind you the Trek writers might not have been aware of it having been done in comics. And it could well have been done in SF literature before TOS.
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Old February 7 2014, 04:44 PM   #19
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Plot holes, Spock's closing remarks to Rand and the missing insignia aside, I always rather enjoy this episode. I always appreciated that we glimpse Sulu assemble a phaser pistol and its ability to fire three beams simultaneously. That's the kid in me of 40 years ago talking....but those moments still ping within me. The "no shuttle craft" point always bothered me, though.

For the aformentioned points and for its willingness to push the envelope, and for its fun...I give it a solid 6.
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Old February 7 2014, 04:54 PM   #20
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The one with the space poodle
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Old February 7 2014, 08:01 PM   #21
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Any guesses what would have happened if they put 'evil' Kirk through the malfunctioning transporter by himself? Would it split him again? Into what?
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Old February 8 2014, 02:55 AM   #22
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mach7 wrote: View Post
For me "The Enemy Within" is the first real miss.

Despite Shatner's great performance this episode is just kind of off.

There are too many inconsistency's.

They can't use the shuttlecraft?

Why not beam down some kind of shelter? Or Fire wood?

Why such a wide variation in the planets day/night temperature?

How/why does the transporter beam good kirk up, and then wait
to materialize bad kirk?

How does a repaired transporter "recombine" the 2 Kirks?

There are also the goofs with the scratch's on Kirks face switching sides and
Kirks command insignia reappearing in some shots.

Some of the good:

A good episode for Sulu

The Vulcan neck pinch

Overall I give it a 5
I love the episode, its a great piece of Trek, but hey, there are so many inconsistencies in the story as you`ve pointed out,
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Old February 8 2014, 04:28 AM   #23
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I am, of course, contractually obligated to point out that this ep was written by the late Richard Matheson, who also gave us The Incredible Shrinking Man, I Am Legend, "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet," Somewhere in Time, Duel, Hell House, What Dreams May Come, The Night Stalker (script), Stir of Echoes, various Vincent Price movies, and many other classic books, movies, and TV episodes . . . .
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Old February 8 2014, 06:56 AM   #24
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It is very sinister Grace was sexually assaulted by a studio exec around the same time and was then fired a few weeks later

It's well-understood now that the "executive" was the Great Bird, and by bringing it up publicly but never naming him, the victim cast a cloud of suspicion that hung in the air for years over a number of innocent men.
Not saying you're wrong, but how is this now "well understand?" What's the source for this assertion?
I haven't read anything which suggests it is "well understood" that Roddenberry was the assailant. I tend to believe that he was, based on a number of details in Whitney's memoir, but she (deliberately) doesn't name the man. That leaves a lot of doubt.

Unfortunately, this is yet another issue about the original series being muddied by Marc Cushman's work, since These Are The Voyages says that Whitney was assaulted by a "studio executive." Actually, Whitney simply refers to the man as "the executive" (Studio executive? Network executive? Executive producer?).
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Old February 8 2014, 11:03 AM   #25
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It is very sinister Grace was sexually assaulted by a studio exec around the same time and was then fired a few weeks later

It's well-understood now that the "executive" was the Great Bird, and by bringing it up publicly but never naming him, the victim cast a cloud of suspicion that hung in the air for years over a number of innocent men.
Not saying you're wrong, but how is this now "well understand?" What's the source for this assertion?
I no longer have the book, but I think Inside Star Trek (Solow, Justman) is where I read the details that led to my firm belief on the subject. So much so that I figured everyone should have accepted the same conclusion.
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Old February 8 2014, 08:00 PM   #26
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Inside Star Trek: The Real Story doesn't mention the assault, although it does say (on pages 243-44):

In discussions in early September, 1966, Roddenberry, Solow, and Weitzman agreed there was no artistic or financial justification to continue her very limited role in light of the show's serious budgetary problems. Strangely, Roddenberry evinced no interest in retaining his hand-picked yeoman, while Justman, opposed to "losing her," held out hope that she would return to guest star in future episodes. Roddenberry never contacted Whitney to give her the bad news. Her agent was formally advised by Desilu Business Affairs that her services were no longer required.

(Years later, there was talk of a sudden personal rift between Roddenberry that occurred just prior to her departure from the show. The rift supposedly guaranteed that she would never return to Star Trek. But she did return--in some of the Star Trek movies. And there was no appearance there of any ill will between them.)
There is, however, a memo in the UCLA archives from Roddenberry to Gene Coon (dated October 28, 1966; five weeks after Whitney was released from her contract), which suggests that Roddenberry may have wanted to bring back Whitney. It says, in part:

Bob Justman and I both think we should look for an opportunity to bring Grace Lee Whitney back as "Yeoman Rand" in some upcoming episode.
(The memo is in the Cushman book, but I can confirm its existence).

Also in the dread Cushman book, the author quotes a Whitney interview with the official Star Trek Fan Club from 1986:

Gene Roddenberry had told me that he let Rand go against his will. He did not want to let Rand go. He wanted to keep the [romantic] conflict [between Kirk and Rand] going."
It's useful to keep in mind, however, the source of this interview (the Official Fan Club) and the date (ten years before Whitney made her 1966 assault public in her memoir).
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Old February 9 2014, 12:34 AM   #27
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This episode as I understand it saw the origin of the Vulcan neck pinch because Nimoy felt it was out of character for Spock to hit the evil Kirk on the back of his head (in engineering) with the base Spock's phaser grip.

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Spock's awful comment on the end
The most likely explanation that I've come up with that make sense of what Spock said is if Spock and Rand were actually very close friends, it was exactly the kind of comment that one girlfriend would make to another following something bad happening to one of them.

Spock and Rand are "girlfriends."

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Old February 9 2014, 02:09 AM   #28
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Inside Star Trek: The Real Story doesn't mention the assault, although it does say (on pages 243-44):

In discussions in early September, 1966, Roddenberry, Solow, and Weitzman agreed there was no artistic or financial justification to continue her very limited role in light of the show's serious budgetary problems. Strangely, Roddenberry evinced no interest in retaining his hand-picked yeoman, while Justman, opposed to "losing her," held out hope that she would return to guest star in future episodes. Roddenberry never contacted Whitney to give her the bad news. Her agent was formally advised by Desilu Business Affairs that her services were no longer required.

(Years later, there was talk of a sudden personal rift between Roddenberry that occurred just prior to her departure from the show. The rift supposedly guaranteed that she would never return to Star Trek. But she did return--in some of the Star Trek movies. And there was no appearance there of any ill will between them.)
There is, however, a memo in the UCLA archives from Roddenberry to Gene Coon (dated October 28, 1966; five weeks after Whitney was released from her contract), which suggests that Roddenberry may have wanted to bring back Whitney. It says, in part:

Bob Justman and I both think we should look for an opportunity to bring Grace Lee Whitney back as "Yeoman Rand" in some upcoming episode.
(The memo is in the Cushman book, but I can confirm its existence).

Also in the dread Cushman book, the author quotes a Whitney interview with the official Star Trek Fan Club from 1986:

Gene Roddenberry had told me that he let Rand go against his will. He did not want to let Rand go. He wanted to keep the [romantic] conflict [between Kirk and Rand] going."
It's useful to keep in mind, however, the source of this interview (the Official Fan Club) and the date (ten years before Whitney made her 1966 assault public in her memoir).
There were many factors. Many of Rand's appearances were minor and hardly justified a higher wage than the day players I suppose. The Enemy within is one of the character's best appearances (although the meatiest is Charlie X and my favourite is the Man Trap). It would have been nice to see her return twice per season in a couple of meatier guest appearances though.
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Old February 9 2014, 03:16 AM   #29
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The episode was so politically incorrect. Spock's remarks. Rand had no female counsellor. Everyone was more concerned about Kirk rather than Rand (even before they knew about the split). Its not even like they said to her we'll assign you a guard until this is sorted. Nope the captain attacked her in front of witnesses and she was just told to go back to her cabin or something. And then the guy was free to accost her later.
They even used animals for experiments.

However this is one of the classic episodes. One of those best remembered.
Sure it had some problems but overall its good enough to overcome these to make it one of the best TOS episodes IMO.

Yes and I even liked the unicorn poodle dog.
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Old February 9 2014, 03:45 AM   #30
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In answer to Lance's question, evil twins have been with us for a long long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_twin


Also, after I wrote the Unseen article a number of years ago, a Youtube user recut the act to conform to the script. Results here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-olilLSyyYE

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