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Old February 12 2014, 11:57 AM   #1
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Chuckles' Crush



Did you notice how Janeway lead Chakotay on - always keeping his hopes up that they would soon fall in love? I mean, you could see the poor man's aching ... the longing ... the yearning (don't ask me why, though). And she just let him hope, you know? ... Kept him hanging on! So near and yet ... so far.
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Old February 12 2014, 12:17 PM   #2
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What you are forgetting is that he probably saved her personality when she was in his LSD machine.

He had a fully operational Janeway nestled on his bedside table the whole time.

It's not real?

It's not enough?

If you don't think that that's enough, why don't you ask the Clown how well he got fucked by a copy?
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Old February 12 2014, 12:25 PM   #3
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You know what? I might just go ahead and do that Guy!
Chuckles, there's something I've been meaning to ask you ...
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Old February 12 2014, 04:04 PM   #4
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Did she, though? I always felt like she was keeping him at arm's length after their little camping adventure. After that point it seemed like it was all on Chuckles' side.
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Old February 12 2014, 11:54 PM   #5
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Did she, though? I always felt like she was keeping him at arm's length after their little camping adventure. After that point it seemed like it was all on Chuckles' side.

I think I agree with you. Yes she was tempted...but I think she realized it just was not feasible or realistic to pursue a relationship with her first officer.

Janeway seemed, atleast for the bulk of the show, to resign herself to a separate fate from the rest of her crew. As captain, she would need to set a precedent, an example [sort of like Picard except much stronger] and thus she seemed to decide that the captain could not have a visible sex life [and thus a weakness].
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Old February 12 2014, 11:55 PM   #6
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Of course. That is one of the most popular plots in most Voyager fanfiction. J/C baby!
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Old February 13 2014, 12:02 AM   #7
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Chuckles and Aunt Kathy sitting in a tree…
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Old February 13 2014, 01:28 AM   #8
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I guess I've just always been kind of surprised at the complete lack of judgement people pass on Janeway for leading this poor, love-sick "Indian" on and on, when Riker catches such flak in fan circles for making it with every Babe-of-the-Week on TNG ... with Deanna waiting with sandwiches by the telecom. But, whatever ... you know, say what you want about Chakotay - that he's bland/boring - but the big guy wears his heat on his sleeve and that's got to count for something. He also seems to have a thing for butch chicks like Janeway and Seska. And when they're out of stock, he'll get with the buggy-eyed borg bimbo. He never gets with any normal-looking chicks, does he? But through it all, in his heart of hearts, he's a 1-Woman-Man ... and that woman ... is Janeway.
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Old February 13 2014, 02:21 AM   #9
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"Chicks" is a very 80s word, and it dates your misogyny.

Here's the thing about spies. In theory they adapt a perfect ideal personality to succeed in any given environment they insert themselves into.

Seska wasn't necessarily butch, if that's really the word.

Chakotay's perfect mate is Butch, so she made herself seem to be his perfect mate to control the Maquis cell Leader.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:25 AM   #10
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I hadn't realized that the word "chicks" was out of date.

Gosh, don't the decades go fast?

Next thing is, you'll all be telling me that those totally rad dudes down at the local pinball palace aren't racking up wizards scores on Pac-Man anymore.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:34 AM   #11
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Chaktoay wants a tough lover, he wants to be the soft responder in the relationship. That's not weakness, it's preference.

I am defending Chakotay? Gosh? No I'm defending preferences
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Old February 13 2014, 03:47 AM   #12
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Doesn't he get the last laugh: the most desirable half women on the ship?
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Old February 13 2014, 03:52 AM   #13
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OH! So true. I forgot about that having absorbed too much Treklit
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Old February 13 2014, 03:52 AM   #14
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There would be no laughs dating that woman.
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Old February 13 2014, 03:54 AM   #15
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