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Old February 11 2014, 04:08 AM   #46
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You're both off the mark. Hubris means dangerous or fatal overconfidence, the pride that comes before a fall. It's the arrogance that leads one to overreach oneself and bring about one's own defeat or destruction. For instance, Professor Crater's hubris in thinking he could control the Salt Vampire, or Gul Dukat's hubris in thinking he could keep the Dominion in check.
Well, I was trying to being facetious with my wording. Nevertheless it's still nothing that knowledge needs be combined with.
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Old February 11 2014, 04:10 AM   #47
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Yeah, I'm really not clear on what word Mage really meant to use there. Humility, perhaps? Which is kind of the opposite of hubris.
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Old February 11 2014, 08:15 PM   #48
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Yeah, I'm really not clear on what word Mage really meant to use there. Humility, perhaps? Which is kind of the opposite of hubris.
No, I really mean that I feel that novel-Ezri had hubris. She was so confident she knew it all and could fix all because she had all this past experience from all the symbionts.

I suppose hubris is the wrong word though, my use was off somewhat. I did mean she was overconfident at times, acting before thinking because she asumed that the knowledge in Dax would be enough to figure things out. But it was never fatal or selfdestructive.
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Old February 11 2014, 11:23 PM   #49
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^But what you said was, "Knowledge is nothing without hubris, something TrekLit Ezri was lacking if you ask me." That's the sentence that confuses me.
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Old February 12 2014, 06:53 PM   #50
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^But what you said was, "Knowledge is nothing without hubris, something TrekLit Ezri was lacking if you ask me." That's the sentence that confuses me.
That's why I just admitted that I used the word wrongly. Again, my apologies.
I do feel Ezri has a small amount of hubris at times, but I should have a used a different word.
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Old February 12 2014, 07:12 PM   #51
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That'll teach you to make mistakes when you post things on the internet!



I'm totally kidding, it's a weird day for me if I don't read or write something incorrectly somewhere, somehow.
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Old February 12 2014, 07:49 PM   #52
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That'll teach you to make mistakes when you post things on the internet!



I'm totally kidding, it's a weird day for me if I don't read or write something incorrectly somewhere, somehow.

Yeah, we're humans, we make mistakes sometimes. It happens.
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Old February 12 2014, 11:09 PM   #53
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That'll teach you to make mistakes when you post things on the internet!



I'm totally kidding, it's a weird day for me if I don't read or write something incorrectly somewhere, somehow.

Yeah, we're humans, we make mistakes sometimes. It happens.
I wouldn't personally sweat it over one man getting far too pedantic.
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Old February 13 2014, 12:23 AM   #54
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That'll teach you to make mistakes when you post things on the internet!



I'm totally kidding, it's a weird day for me if I don't read or write something incorrectly somewhere, somehow.

Yeah, we're humans, we make mistakes sometimes. It happens.
I wouldn't personally sweat it over one man getting far too pedantic.
He wasn't being pedantic at all. "Hubris" has a negative connotation, and Mage was using it in a seemingly positive way. I was curious about what he meant, too!

Anyway, I'm fascinated to see what John Jackson Miller comes up with! I recently read Kenobi (my first Star Wars novel) and I really enjoyed it. I'm really excited for Miller's foray into the Trek universe!
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Old February 13 2014, 01:43 AM   #55
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Yeah, I was trying to understand what Mage meant and I asked a question, because I was confused.
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Old February 13 2014, 07:32 PM   #56
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I wouldn't personally sweat it over one man getting far too pedantic.
It's hardly pedantic to be genuinely confused because someone used a word in manner that inferred an opposite meaning to its actual one. It would be like saying "pacifism is nothing without violence."

Nevertheless, he said he used the wrong word. I would still be interested in the actual point he was trying to convey.
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Old February 13 2014, 08:03 PM   #57
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And .... de-cloak! Been lurking here for years, decided I was bored with that status quo....

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Anyway, I'm fascinated to see what John Jackson Miller comes up with! I recently read Kenobi (my first Star Wars novel) and I really enjoyed it. I'm really excited for Miller's foray into the Trek universe!
Quite so! JJM's SW work has been uniformly excellent, only a rare blip here and there, with Kenobi being the zenith. The idea of him spinning a Dax and Aventine story is one I'm intrigued by.
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Old February 13 2014, 08:08 PM   #58
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Oops, wrong thread.
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Old February 14 2014, 04:43 PM   #59
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Excited about this. I wish Miller would write a story about the odball statisticians from DS 9's Statistical Probabilities. Odballs are his specialty.
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Old February 14 2014, 06:21 PM   #60
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And .... de-cloak! Been lurking here for years, decided I was bored with that status quo.....
Happy belated welcome then

Are you by chance the same Jedi Ben who frequents the Star Wars equivalent of this place over at the Jedi Council Forums? I've been known to pop in there from time to time this last year, though I'm hardly a regular...
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