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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old January 29 2014, 02:59 AM   #16
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Re: Episode of the Week: 4x05 "Remember Me"

The Warp Bubble created a universe based on her thoughts of the time of creation. The experiment Wesley did was along the lines of the warp experiments done on the ship in "Where No One Has Gone Before" where The Traveler's harnessing of thoughts took the ship to the "edge of the universe" where thoughts manifested themselves into reality.

At the time of the bubble's creation Beverly's thoughts were on losing those around her, inspired by her mentor talking about being recently widowered, thinking of her husband Jack's death and probably Wesley's impending leaving of the ship to go to The Academy. These thoughts created the Warp Bubble "universe" with everyone around her disappearing without much more than a second thought by everyone (again, probably inspired by the way people "forget" about lost ones over time.)

We could probably argue that as the Warp Bubble "collapsed" this pocket universe got smaller and smaller and could maintain less and less persons in it. But the "Beverly's thoughts created this situation" is the "read-into it" explanation the episode was aiming for.
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Old January 29 2014, 03:21 AM   #17
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"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"

I've always loved this episode.
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Old January 29 2014, 03:54 AM   #18
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Trekker4747 wrote: View Post

We could probably argue that as the Warp Bubble "collapsed" this pocket universe got smaller and smaller and could maintain less and less persons in it. But the "Beverly's thoughts created this situation" is the "read-into it" explanation the episode was aiming for.
Perhaps the episode would have benefitted from a more concrete explanation in that fashion then, because I'll admit to me some of it seems confusing. I can see where you can build a story based on the "bubble" universe being built or reacting to the thought of people disappearing, but I don't see why it should have to be that way if Beverly couldn't distinguish it from actual reality at first. And her mind probably generated other thoughts before the vanishings started and then kept going, so it's not clear to me why such thoughts wouldn't have potentially caused their own changes or created more stability. Not unlike what happened to the DS9 crew in "If Wishes Were Horses."

As I said, though, I haven't seen the ep in years and I could be overanalyzing.
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Old January 29 2014, 08:25 AM   #19
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It's a little bizarre but it works really well. It would have worked just as well with anyone else as the lead, but I suppose it lends some strength to the Traveler subplot.
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Old January 29 2014, 08:28 AM   #20
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I watched it tonight after dinner. It holds up pretty well. About the only thing that stuck out to me was one line Gates delivers (but that one line has always bothered me). Otherwise, it was quite enjoyable.
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Old January 29 2014, 12:04 PM   #21
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One of my most favourite season 4 episodes. It's done so well.
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Old January 29 2014, 06:59 PM   #22
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After the few dozen times I've watched this episode, this finally occurred to me. Did people disappear off the Enterprise inside the warp bubble/Crusher's mind in order of how familiar she was with them? If so, odd that Quaice would be one of the first to disappear, but she hadn't seen him in years and I think a bunch of unnamed crewpeople disappeared at the same time as him. I figure there's gotta be some logical reason that Picard is the last person on the ship besides herself...although Wesley does disappear a little early if this theory has any basis.

Not early enough, if you ask my opinion
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Old January 29 2014, 10:38 PM   #23
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I think they disappeared based on pay scale.
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Old January 30 2014, 07:55 AM   #24
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I suppose that from a production standpoint, if your actors are on the per-episode reimbursement plan, you'd want to get the most out of them
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Old January 30 2014, 07:36 PM   #25
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Great episode
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