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Old January 21 2014, 02:19 AM   #1
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With the success the new trek has been,i was wondering if it would work with the series and have the cast reprise their roles for tv and remake all 78 epsiodes,ok it will look good and better special effects but would it have the same impact the original series have today?.
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Old January 21 2014, 02:51 AM   #2
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Re: reimagining the series

After much consideration, I must say ... and don't hold me to this ... it would have less impact than the original.
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Old January 21 2014, 02:59 AM   #3
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No. Not the same impact at all.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:17 AM   #4
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About the same impact as the New Monkees.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:28 AM   #5
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There will not be any NuTrek television spinning off from the Abrams movies. CBS and Abrams have both made it pretty clear.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:28 AM   #6
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Abrams primary cast are movie stars, therefor, it would be to expensive to pay them for a TV series. It all comes down to the movie economics vs. TV economics. You may be able to get one (like Urban in Only Human). But you are not going to get all of the primary movie cast, especially Pine. Kirk, Spock, McCoy, etc.. would basically have to re-cast. So there in lies a problem where CBS would have to decide is its worth recasting those characters, especially when there is another movie coming in 3 years or so. This will cause brand confusion. They are better off going in a different direction or trying to re-cast TNG.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:40 AM   #7
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They are better off going in a different direction or trying to re-cast TNG.
A shame, because it would be beautiful to see TOS back on the small screen and the TNG characters get some decent movies for once.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:43 AM   #8
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Why would anyone want to do this? The purpose escapes me.

Since I already ignore Abram's Star Trek movies ( I really stopped watching new Trek after DS9 ended), it would just give me more to ignore!
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Old January 21 2014, 05:04 AM   #9
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What would be the point? Particularly what would be the point of redoning the original episodes. You certainly aren't going to catch that lightning-in-a-bottle again the same way. The nuTrek cast don't have anywhere near the same chemistry as the TOS cast had.

Also there were numerous individuals behind the scenes that made TOS what it was and the evidence is on the film screen that the nuTrek production crew didn't have that kind of talent. The biggest difficiencies in talent are the writing, the ideas and the producing/directing. They're nowhere near the level of a lot of what we saw on TOS.

What's being proposed here is essentially reshooting the TOS scripts, but everything else is changed from cast to writing to production crew. And because you're just reshooting existing scripts or even if you're adapting them you will draw inevitable comparisons with many episodes that are now considered classic and iconic. Furthermore the audience isn't the same as when TOS hit the ground and flourished in ensuing years. The television market is now much more fragmented.

A big difference (for me) is also the nature of the storytelling. NuTrek is mindless blockbuster fare with hyper action to (presumably) distract you from so many flaws in the story and plotting. Television by nature is more small scale also allowing you to tell a greater variety of stories, as evidenced by TOS and TNG. To get that kind of Star Trek story in film you have to rethink the blockbuster mentality and I think that's highly unlikely studio bosses would go for it. That said it would be kind of amazing to see a Star Trek film telling a story like "The Corbomite Maneuver," "Balance Of Terror," "Space Seed," "A Taste Of Armageddon" or "The Doomsday Machine" on the big screen. The real strength of those stories isn't the action sequences (even with re-imagined f/x) but in the ideas and character interplay. Imagine a Star Trek film that actually had the balls to go for story first and f/x as a genuinely supporting element. I'd say TMP and TWOK came closest to doing that.

Case in point: STID. It's a rip-off of TWOK and even with TWOK's logic missteps it's still a far better film than STID. And STID really pales in comparison to TOS' "Space Seed" in terms of storytelling.

Partly by its nature television forces you to focus more on story and character partly because you've got only 45-50 minutes to tell your story. And it's the thing you have to do if you really want to grab your audience in hopes of bringing them back week after week.

If you wanted to bring TOS back to television then it's obviously a reboot, with new stories and a much different approach than what was used in JJtrek.
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Old January 21 2014, 08:43 AM   #10
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Blah blah blah JJ bash blah blah blah.
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Old January 21 2014, 08:59 AM   #11
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Blah blah blah JJ bash blah blah blah.
Boiled down simply, smartass, is the dumbed down summer blockbuster approach wouldn't work for long on television unless you want it for Saturday morning programming. And I seriously doubt any network would spend that kind of money for a Saturday morning program.

And the OP brought JJtrek into it by proposing nuTrek be used to reshoot the original stories. They couldn't even rip-off TWOK half decently.

His proposal is flawed on a number of points.
- to what end reshooting the original scripts?
- you wouldn't have the same JJ cast.
- you wouldn't have the same JJ production crew.

So he's not really getting what he seems to asking for.

But we can we can play the thought exercise game as he's suggesting. And that brings us back to "why?" To what end reshooting the original episodes with the JJtrek universe? Why not make something new from scratch?
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Old January 21 2014, 09:21 AM   #12
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This doesn't strike me as the right forum for any of this.

The parts about ideas for a new series are Future of Trek. The parts about the merits of STID, or lack thereof, and same for STXI, are Star Trek Movies XI+.

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Old January 21 2014, 09:57 AM   #13
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Re: reimagining the series

Mr Pointy Ears wrote: View Post
With the success the new trek has been,i was wondering if it would work with the series and have the cast reprise their roles for tv and remake all 78 epsiodes,ok it will look good and better special effects but would it have the same impact the original series have today?.
A few years ago they launched a comic book series that 're-imagines' all the TOS episodes with the new versions of the TOS crew. These might give you an idea of how your idea might be realized. The ones I read weren't awful, nor were they all that interesting. Not sure if it's still going. Guys?
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Old January 21 2014, 10:53 AM   #14
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Blah blah blah JJ bash blah blah blah.
Boiled down simply, smartass,...
I didn't read further that that, since if you have to resort to name calling you've lost the argument by default.
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Old January 21 2014, 11:10 AM   #15
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Re: reimagining the series

A rebooted TOS series could be awesome, capture the public's imagination and be huge. Would it have the same long-term impact? Unlikely, but it would certainly be a huge boost to the longevity of the franchise.

But even if it was the most well written, wonderfully acted and beautiful show in television history, Warped9 would still loathe it on principle.
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