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View Poll Results: Rate Protectors.
Outstanding 33 40.24%
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Average 8 9.76%
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Old February 1 2014, 05:12 PM   #76
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Re: VOY: Protectors by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

I absolutely loved this book. I could not put the darn thing down. The VOY series has become one heck of a grand slam. My only concern is that it is out of sync chronologically with the rest of the "current" book timelines.
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Old February 1 2014, 05:50 PM   #77
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I've read only seven chapters so far. I feel bad for Tom Paris&Belanna when it comes to his mother wanting to take custody of Miral away from them.It looks like Chakotay and Captain O'Donell will butt heads when it comes to exploring the unknown section of the Delta Quadrant and their different command styles.
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Old February 1 2014, 09:04 PM   #78
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Anyone care to give the details on the alliance/confederacy? It's going to be a while before i can buy it and read it.


Edit: There's are spoiling article of the Confederacy on Memory Beta now.
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Old February 2 2014, 10:29 AM   #79
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About a 130 pages or so to go.

Really liking parts of it, others not that much. The DQ parts of the book don't grab me that much unfortunatly.

And, is it me, or does Kirsten write a lot of angst in her characters?

Anyway, I'll reserve judgement untill the end, but I think this will be a Above Average for me.
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Old February 2 2014, 02:17 PM   #80
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Finished, had less pages to go then I thought I had.

Above Average for me. The characters... amazing, as always with Kirsten, but like I said earlier, there really is so much angst going on. Everybody seems to have a reason to be afraid or uncertain about, which makes for interesting characters I suppose, but I can't help but feel that in normal life, you'd have more stable people in a big group. Then again, after all the events from the last 6 months, it's not odd that people feel like this.
FYI, I'm talking about all the Kirsten novels since Full Circle, obviously some people have gotten over their issues by now.

The Ark Planet/wave forms..... not my cup of tea really, but the it was an interesting concept for sure. The DQ sections of the novel really became interesting to me when the ships starting showing up.

I agree with a previous post, that it's very interesting to see that some of our characters now have to deal with the consequences of some of their actions. No good deed goes unpunished indeed.

The illness/Axum/secret Starfleet part of the novel.... I will reserve judgement on that entire storyline when it develops more. I find it hard to judge something that has only just peeked around the corner.

All in all, very enjoyable read. Perhaps not as epic as Full Circle or Children of the Storm, but I suppose with only half the story told sofar, I have a feeling this might be the biggest thing happening for Voyager, her crew and the fleet sofar.
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Old February 2 2014, 05:59 PM   #81
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I hope Beyer doesn't end the new voyager books with Voyager being the only remaining ship of the Delta quadrant fleet. It seems too cheesy to me.

I was hoping to look forward to seeing them encounter the Kazon or Devore. How would they react when they encounter a small fleet of Federation ships instead of the one science vessel. It's a shame the ships are getting destroyed left and right.

As good as Beyer's books are I wish she wrote more about the races and civilizations Voyager encountered in the episodes. The Videans what are they like now?, What happened to the Borg rebellion led by Korok (unimatrix zero and Axom), What about the human transplanted colony?, or the world populated by groups of severed borg? There's so many obvious good and interesting things to draw on I don't know why she doesn't use it. Maybe possibly in a few years time.
I'm going to have to eat my own words I said before the book came out. Beyer REALLY hit all the points I wanted in a Voyager book. I wanted more ships in the Full Circle fleet and I got that, I wanted to see some of the more interesting Delta quadrant species returning and I really got that.

I gave it an outstanding mark. This book had everything I wanted in a Trek book. Exploration, discovery, politics, some action and most of all it really made use of the Trek universe. One of my major gripes about some Trek books is they don't make full use of the rich and full lore of Star Trek. Beyer did. She went to the Beta, Alpha, and Delta quadrants, we even learn of the fates of the Naomi Wildman and Echip.

Beyer really knows how to write what characters are feeling. I really like that about Beyer. That scene with Janeway and the older counselor was really well done.

One of the few things I didn't enjoy was when she focuses a bit too much and long on a relationship and how they feeling. But, when it's just getting stale it turns and a new plot development occurs.

I wasn't too fond of how it ended, with a mystery. Maybe it's just because I want more now, but I guess we'll have to wait. Although, overall, the book left me with a satisfied positive ending.

One thing I didn't understand was why Vorik and Tuvok were withdrawn, almost bitter? Its been a while since I read the last books but is it because they thought she was dead and now she's back? and they don't know how to deal with it since they accepted her death?.
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Old February 3 2014, 11:26 PM   #82
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What is the expected timeline for a blurb on Acts of Contrition?
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Old February 4 2014, 09:43 AM   #83
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I quite liked this although thoroughly bored of intrigue in Starfleet at this stage - especially six (?) books in a row. Wasn't keen on the wooly new aged nonsense moment with Janeway either. Still better than a lot of Trek I've read recently.
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Old February 4 2014, 09:51 AM   #84
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I got the feeling, that too many of Starfleet Command officers has become what Oliver Queen of Smallville said "Generation of Critics instead of Leaders" for judging selfishly what late Future Admiral Janeway did by changing the Timeline. It's so annoying to see such a Commanding Officers could do that... It's remind me of those stupid Captains who shot at the Aventine on The Falls: 4, so stupid and narrow minded.
I wouldn't think they're selfish. The book begins just over a year after a Borg invasion triggered by Janeway's actions killed 61 billion people. it's nmot at all unreasonable to question if it was worth it, especially if the evidence that it may have been is not generally available. Even Janeway herself acknowledges to Farkas that she miscalculated.
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Old February 4 2014, 07:44 PM   #85
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I like how the character of Captain Farkas is starting to change her views about Admiral
Janeway.I hope she'll be appearing future Voyager books.Belanna seems to acting totally out of character due to her pregnancy .She's making some unwise decisions that could've endangered the crews on the ark planet.
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Old February 5 2014, 03:24 PM   #86
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I voted Outstanding because of the Janeway character growth! Looking forward to talking to Kirsten tonight for LT!
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Old February 5 2014, 05:44 PM   #87
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Looking forward to talking to Kirsten tonight for LT!
Cool!
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Old February 5 2014, 05:56 PM   #88
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Really enjoyed the last KB podcast. I can't wait to hear this one after I finish Protectors.
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Old February 5 2014, 06:10 PM   #89
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Looking forward to hearing another interview with Kirsten.
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Old February 5 2014, 06:34 PM   #90
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Is it just me, or does it seem like Captain Farkas is being modeled on Genevieve Bujold's brief-portrayal of Captain Janeway. Every time that the character appears in the book, I seem to imagine that it is Bujold who is playing the part.
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