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Old January 25 2014, 07:04 PM   #31
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Re: VOY: Protectors by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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To everyone who is interested to know...I received word today that the release of the next book, Acts of Contrition, is scheduled for October of 2014...on sale September 30th. So...an eight month wait...
Fabulous news, great to hear.

Can't wait for Tuesday...
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Old January 25 2014, 09:43 PM   #32
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Kristen, you nominally can produce a new Voyager novel in the 8 to 12 month range?
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Old January 25 2014, 09:53 PM   #33
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Therin...WTF is that? You know what...never mind...I don't want to know.
Smirk. For Dayton Ward and David R George, I've done a few in-store photo shoots of their recent books - with appropriate props - but I don't think Galaxy Bookshop would have approved of this one.

Strangely, this was also an item that Scott Pearson and Robert Greenberger must have decided they didn't need in "The Complete Unauthorized History of Star Trek"...


Trek bizarre by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

Although it seems to be an unknown Trek collectible in USA, the small print on the box says, "Made in England for Gasworks Inc., Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA."

But back to "Protectors"...
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Old January 26 2014, 06:09 AM   #34
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Re: VOY: Protectors by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Strangely, this was also an item that Scott Pearson and Robert Greenberger must have decided they didn't need in "The Complete Unauthorized History of Star Trek"...
Odd. Both Scott and Bob are dear friends and if they knew it existed, I find it hard to believe they'd have left it out.

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Kristen, you nominally can produce a new Voyager novel in the 8 to 12 month range?
The heavy lifting on any book usually takes six months. That's from the moment I start breaking a new story, create the short outline for preliminary approval for my editor, create the long-form outline from which I write, and then write the manuscript. I like to have at least four months for manuscript. I don't ever plan to take days off but sometimes life happens so it's unavoidable.

I'm usually looking to get 1,500 usable words out of any given day's writing. It tends to take about 100 days to make that happen. The last few weeks are for major or minor re-writes once I can see the whole thing in some sort of final "shape" before sending it off to my editor for their first pass.

After the editor does their work, I incorporate their changes and notes. If I'm really lucky, that takes ten days or so. It has been known to take as long as a month.

Usually a few weeks after that, the book is in the production pipeline...I usually get three more passes after that...copyedits, and two once it's in "book" form. At that point we're no longer working from the original word file I created but from a pdf of the pages once they have been laid out. That whole process usually takes six to eight months.

That's sort of the "normal" schedule. I'm pretty sure Full Circle took more like eight months for me to write. Unworthy and Children of the Storm were closer to six, but most of the "prep" work on Unworthy happened before Full Circle, so we made up ground there. And its production schedule was definitely tighter.

Eternal Tide was another eight month writing process. I felt like that book was never going to be finished.

Protectors was outlined and ready to start writing in January of 2013 and the moment it was done, I started the outlines for Acts. That manuscript was done mid-December.

I had a whole ten days off before I started fiddling with the new one. Am in process on the long-form outline now.

Until we started Protectors I usually had, for a variety of reasons, a few months or more of downtime before the next project started. I've been back to back since the beginning of last year and for now, there is no end in sight.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is...

Best,
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Old January 26 2014, 01:31 PM   #35
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Re: VOY: Protectors by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Odd. Both Scott and Bob are dear friends and if they knew it existed, I find it hard to believe they'd have left it out.
It was #89 of 90 pics sent, of which five were chosen.
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Old January 26 2014, 06:55 PM   #36
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Agggh. I'm so conflicted lol so I've got this on pre-order and it's coming out on Tuesday. I'm at a loose end in terms of books to read. I can't wait to start this but still have a few days before I can get my hands on it. Do I start another book or wait?
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Old January 26 2014, 07:32 PM   #37
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Agggh. I'm so conflicted lol so I've got this on pre-order and it's coming out on Tuesday. I'm at a loose end in terms of books to read. I can't wait to start this but still have a few days before I can get my hands on it. Do I start another book or wait?
^^Same here!!! Ahhhhh!!

I do have other books waiting to be read on my Nook, but I figure Tuesday isn't too far to wait.

I wonder if it will activate midnight Monday...that'd be sweet.
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Old January 26 2014, 08:14 PM   #38
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Agggh. I'm so conflicted lol so I've got this on pre-order and it's coming out on Tuesday. I'm at a loose end in terms of books to read. I can't wait to start this but still have a few days before I can get my hands on it. Do I start another book or wait?
^^Same here!!! Ahhhhh!!

I do have other books waiting to be read on my Nook, but I figure Tuesday isn't too far to wait.

I wonder if it will activate midnight Monday...that'd be sweet.
Yeah hopefully it downloads at midnight on Monday. I've decided to wait too. I figured that I won't be able to enjoy any book I star now because I'll want to quickly finish it to start the voyager book.
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Old January 26 2014, 08:36 PM   #39
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To everyone who is interested to know...I received word today that the release of the next book, Acts of Contrition, is scheduled for October of 2014...on sale September 30th. So...an eight month wait...

Sadly, that's not a record for me...we only waited six months between Full Circle and Unworthy. But still...not bad, especially when you consider that I was not yet a mom when I wrote those two and was pretty much writing full time.

Sometimes I think, "Those were the days." Then my daughter does something hilarious and I realize they might have been, but I wouldn't trade these for anything.
I'm glad we're getting another one so soon. It could be a lot worse!

As for the comments about your daughter... it melted my heart. I had to read that to my wife and she just looked at me with misty eyes and say "that is SO true!"

We have a 14 month old boy sleeping in the next room, and it just gets me right in the heart when people talk about their kids like that. I love it.
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Old January 26 2014, 10:25 PM   #40
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Re: VOY: Protectors by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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Therin of Andor wrote: View Post
Strangely, this was also an item that Scott Pearson and Robert Greenberger must have decided they didn't need in "The Complete Unauthorized History of Star Trek"...
Odd. Both Scott and Bob are dear friends and if they knew it existed, I find it hard to believe they'd have left it out.

Ronald Held wrote: View Post
Kristen, you nominally can produce a new Voyager novel in the 8 to 12 month range?
The heavy lifting on any book usually takes six months. That's from the moment I start breaking a new story, create the short outline for preliminary approval for my editor, create the long-form outline from which I write, and then write the manuscript. I like to have at least four months for manuscript. I don't ever plan to take days off but sometimes life happens so it's unavoidable.

I'm usually looking to get 1,500 usable words out of any given day's writing. It tends to take about 100 days to make that happen. The last few weeks are for major or minor re-writes once I can see the whole thing in some sort of final "shape" before sending it off to my editor for their first pass.

After the editor does their work, I incorporate their changes and notes. If I'm really lucky, that takes ten days or so. It has been known to take as long as a month.

Usually a few weeks after that, the book is in the production pipeline...I usually get three more passes after that...copyedits, and two once it's in "book" form. At that point we're no longer working from the original word file I created but from a pdf of the pages once they have been laid out. That whole process usually takes six to eight months.

That's sort of the "normal" schedule. I'm pretty sure Full Circle took more like eight months for me to write. Unworthy and Children of the Storm were closer to six, but most of the "prep" work on Unworthy happened before Full Circle, so we made up ground there. And its production schedule was definitely tighter.

Eternal Tide was another eight month writing process. I felt like that book was never going to be finished.

Protectors was outlined and ready to start writing in January of 2013 and the moment it was done, I started the outlines for Acts. That manuscript was done mid-December.

I had a whole ten days off before I started fiddling with the new one. Am in process on the long-form outline now.

Until we started Protectors I usually had, for a variety of reasons, a few months or more of downtime before the next project started. I've been back to back since the beginning of last year and for now, there is no end in sight.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but there it is...

Best,
Kirsten Beyer
Not too much detail at all. Thanks Kirsten.
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Old January 27 2014, 12:30 AM   #41
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Cool. I still need to finish Eternal Tide, but by October I should be all caught up. I think this will probably be the first time I've been up to date on a TrekLit series since the end of the Avatar-The Soul Key DS9R cycle.
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Old January 28 2014, 02:32 PM   #42
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Ok, it's here! Now the trick is to not open this thread again until I'm finished...
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Old January 28 2014, 02:43 PM   #43
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Just got mine downloaded last night and it's a beast in length, I love it!
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Old January 28 2014, 04:11 PM   #44
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Down loaded to my kindle last night. Very excited to start a new Voyager book written by Kirsten
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Old January 28 2014, 05:43 PM   #45
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It downloaded on my kindle last night. I had to read a chapter before I went to sleep!
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