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Old January 23 2014, 09:49 PM   #211
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Re: Question to those most disappointed with the SW prequels

Since it takes place about 10 years prior to A New Hope the new animated series Rebels falls into the Prequel time frame and more images have leaked about the new show over the last few months (including the appearance of the Inquisitor villain who participates in helping to hunt down the remaining Jedi and appears to be of the Pau'an species first seen in Episode III). I wonder how fans will react to the new series once it premieres. It's a hybrid of PT and OT elements with a CGI flavor resembling The Clone Wars.

It's gonna be interesting to watch. Both the show and the fan reactions.
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Old January 23 2014, 10:24 PM   #212
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Since it takes place about 10 years prior to A New Hope the new animated series Rebels falls into the Prequel time frame and more images have leaked about the new show over the last few months (including the appearance of the Inquisitor villain who participates in helping to hunt down the remaining Jedi and appears to be of the Pau'an species first seen in Episode III). I wonder how fans will react to the new series once it premieres. It's a hybrid of PT and OT elements with a CGI flavor resembling The Clone Wars.

It's gonna be interesting to watch. Both the show and the fan reactions.
I'll definitely tune-in to see if its any good.
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Old January 23 2014, 10:59 PM   #213
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I'm expecting to enjoy it, TCW at it's best was pretty good stuff! I'm interested to see this time frame.
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Old January 24 2014, 12:33 AM   #214
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Me too. Just like with Trek you'll never please the more virulent and purist fans, but it seems there's more interest and excitement than there is disgruntlement about the new series. We've never seen the -10 BBY time frame depicted onscreen so this will be fascinating.
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Old January 24 2014, 12:54 AM   #215
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I think most folks who watched TCW, and were able to get past the fact that it's animated, saw a show that was very well-balanced between good writing, good stories, good action, and good fun. One does have to wonder how the directives from Disney will affect the tone of the Rebels - TCW could get pretty dark at times, lending a bit of tension and realism to the stories - but with the vast majority of the original team turning its creative energies toward the new show, the prospects are pretty bright.
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Old January 24 2014, 12:58 AM   #216
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Re: Question to those most disappointed with the SW prequels

I had my own worries that Disney would make any new animated series too kid-friendly and sterilize the action and suspense, but Disney as a corporation has long owned other production companies that produce rather adult and gritty films and television series, and I always like to bring up Miramax circa 1994 as a prime example. Disney was in charge of Miramax when both Pulp Fiction and the original Clerks were distributed and released, and those have to be two of the least family-friendly movies in recent memory.

Rebels can get gritty and dark (within limits, naturally) if they want, and I don't think Disney would want to risk softening the Star Wars brand in the wake of The Clone Wars and the events in Episode III. They were too popular with the fanbase to risk retooling the franchise into something more soft and cuddly just because the Mouse now owns Lucasfilm. Far too many fans would be alienated.
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Old January 24 2014, 01:57 AM   #217
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I'm pretty impressed to learn that Frank Herbert evidently invented the idea of a desert planet.
Invented? No. Popularized? Yes.
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Old January 24 2014, 04:33 AM   #218
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I had my own worries that Disney would make any new animated series too kid-friendly and sterilize the action and suspense,
I don't know where you are getting the impression from. Walt Disney himself isn't actually writing the story. If you look at the actual people doing the story, none of them are known for any of these qualities you described. In fact I'm more worried of these guys going overboard and sacrificing story and writer consistency for moments of cool.
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Old January 24 2014, 04:38 AM   #219
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It was the general impression online and in many corners of the fanbase when Disney bought Lucasfilm and then greenlit the new show. That's all. Like I said, I had worries, but once reminded how many properties Disney owns that produce adult-themed material I'm not that concerned anymore. Besides, even if they did want to dumb down the franchise to make it more first grader-friendly, they won't risk the backlash and lost business. They know on which side their bread is buttered, big cartoon Mouse or not.

Disney owns Marvel and Marvel doesn't exactly slap its name on the most kid-friendly action films. The Avengers isn't Natural Born Killers, but it's not a Pixar movie about talking animals, neither. If Disney wants kid fare they'll make kid fare.

I'm more concerned that every episode will be a stream of continuity porn for the sake of continuity porn and linking the PT and OT, and that's not a good strategy neither. I hope they strike a good balance between referencing the rest of the Saga and Lucas universe and being somewhat original.
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Old January 24 2014, 04:58 AM   #220
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Rebels isn't a film. It's a (CGI) cartoon that will be broadcast on a premium cable channel that has a very specific demographic that's catered to. Concerns that Rebels won't appeal to adults to the same degree that The Clone Wars did are well-founded. The Marvel shows on Disney XD clearly target 6-15 year-olds.
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Old January 24 2014, 05:03 AM   #221
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I guess we'll know soon enough. If the show isn't up to standards that the fanbase will accept then the ratings and other numbers will suffer. It's bad enough the series is on an expanded-package channel a whole lot of people don't get and won't subscribe to in order to watch one half-hour show....I just don't know if Disney XD was a good choice whether it's a Disney-owned channel or not. I could probably count the number of people I know who both receive and watch the channel on one hand and have a couple of fingers left over.
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I'm pretty impressed to learn that Frank Herbert evidently invented the idea of a desert planet.
Invented? No. Popularized? Yes.
I dunno, I thought it all started with Lawrence of Arabia.
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Old January 24 2014, 10:06 PM   #223
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Rebels isn't a film. It's a (CGI) cartoon that will be broadcast on a premium cable channel that has a very specific demographic that's catered to. Concerns that Rebels won't appeal to adults to the same degree that The Clone Wars did are well-founded.
Your problem with that assumption is that most of the creative people leading the project have a record of doing stuff that appeals to all age groups including adults while working with a very limiting mandate from their corporate masters. They probably have to fire the showrunners imo to get to the level of the marvel shows running on XD.
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Old January 25 2014, 01:29 AM   #224
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Re: Question to those most disappointed with the SW prequels

Here's the entire Anakin(Vader)-Padmé sequence on the landing platform of Mustafar in reference to our previous conversations and debates about the Force Choke and her death "from a broken heart" on the delivery table.

Quibbles about execution aside, it's a wrenching sequence.

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Rebels isn't a film. It's a (CGI) cartoon that will be broadcast on a premium cable channel that has a very specific demographic that's catered to. Concerns that Rebels won't appeal to adults to the same degree that The Clone Wars did are well-founded.
Your problem with that assumption is that most of the creative people leading the project have a record of doing stuff that appeals to all age groups including adults while working with a very limiting mandate from their corporate masters. They probably have to fire the showrunners imo to get to the level of the marvel shows running on XD.
There's no assumption in what I've said there, because all I've done is express concerns that are derived from facts. All you've done is offer other facts which lead you to have less cause for concern. Neither of us knows anything, and neither of us have said anything beyond that, except that you're willing to trust the showrunners. I'm not (why should I). I'll go by what I see in the form of evidence from footage, in ads, trailers, and the like, which hasn't been released yet, and I'll make my decision to pay more on my cable bill based on that.
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