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Old January 27 2014, 10:47 PM   #226
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

^ Seconded.

I know someone who's had a casting call which, reading between the lines of what they described, makes me suspect there will be live-action Wookies (as opposed to just CGI) in the new film.
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Old January 27 2014, 10:51 PM   #227
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Anthony Daniels played two roles each in both Episodes II and III (Threepio and the Coruscant uniformed officer Lt. - later Capt. - Dannl Faytonni, seen first in the Outlander Nightclub and three years later at the huge Opera House), so it wouldn't be the first time one of the lead actors pulled some overtime as a background human or alien.
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Old January 27 2014, 11:17 PM   #228
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

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Technically all they'd need to do to validate putting Kenny's name in the end credits would be putting him in the Artoo shell for just one or two scenes involving closeups where his dome rotates and he does the astromech droid equivalent of emoting (twitching, wobbling, etc.) and then they could use a remote control, automated Artoo for all the other scenes in the film.

There were plenty of shots in the OT and PT where Kenny was never actually inside the Artoo shell at a given moment, but a lot of fans thought he was. I hope he does indeed return for at least a couple of scenes just for old times' sake.
I'd say that's pretty much all he did do in the prequels.

In fact

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1029304/
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Old January 27 2014, 11:23 PM   #229
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Yep. As he got older and the technology to create remote controlled Artoo shells progressed and became more reliable Kenny appeared inside them less and less often. R2 was also fairly heavily CGI'ed throughout the Prequels so that also took away from opportunities for Kenny to don the costume.

All he'd need to do is shoot one or two quick scenes that make it into the final cut and they can slide his name into the closing credits and maintain the tradition of him co-starring in each film in the Saga.
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Old January 28 2014, 12:28 AM   #230
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Yeah, it'd be a shame for him to not be included. I suspect that he will be.
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Old January 28 2014, 01:31 AM   #231
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lurok wrote: View Post
I know someone who's had a casting call which, reading between the lines of what they described, makes me suspect there will be live-action Wookies (as opposed to just CGI) in the new film.
So, just like ROTS then?
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Old January 28 2014, 01:33 AM   #232
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

I can't imagine Anthony Daniels at least, not being involved. I could see them noting bring Kenny Baker back, but I doubt they'd want to deal with the fan backlash if they found out. So yeah, at this point I foresee them both coming back, even if like you guys said, it was just for one or two scenes.
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Old January 28 2014, 05:07 AM   #233
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Do they actually need Kenny to be in the can? I'd just let him man the radio controls and give him the credit.
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Old January 28 2014, 09:55 AM   #234
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Do they actually need Kenny to be in the can? I'd just let him man the radio controls and give him the credit.
I'd suspect that it depends on SAG rules, which I know nothing about.
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Old January 28 2014, 02:51 PM   #235
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Me neither, but I get the suspicion based on past films that Kenny would need to be inside the Artoo shell at least once and appear on-screen in order to be included in the film's credits. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I've been getting since the Prequels.

The credits and their composition have always been a big sticking point for the industry, and when Empire was being readied for release back in 1980 Hollywood bigwigs at 20th Century Fox demanded Lucas place the credits for the second film at the beginning of the movie to comply with how the typical film is structured. They had made an exception with the original back in 1977 but that time they made demands of Lucas and he and Irvin Kershner chose to defy them, incurring fines that George had to pay.
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Old January 28 2014, 04:45 PM   #236
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emp...ack#Production:

To preserve the dramatic opening sequences of his films, Lucas wanted the screen credits to come at the end of the films. Even though this is more common now, this was a highly unusual choice at the time. The Writers and Directors Guilds had no problem allowing it on Star Wars, back in 1977, because the writer-director credit (George Lucas) matched the company name, but when Lucas did the same thing for the sequel it became an issue because Lucas had his last name on the start of the film (Lucasfilm), while the director and the writers had theirs on the end. They fined him over $250,000 and attempted to pull Empire out of theaters. The DGA also attacked Kershner; to protect his director, Lucas paid all the fines to the guilds. Due to the controversy, he left the Directors and Writers Guilds, and the Motion Picture Association.[3]

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3. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy. Star Wars Trilogy Box Set DVD documentary. [2004]
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Old January 29 2014, 01:04 AM   #237
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Thanks for that, CC. I knew I'd heard it mentioned several times that important people within Hollywood came after both George and Irvin before Empire was edited and released but I'd forgotten it was the Writers and Director's Guilds and not the studio itself.
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Old January 30 2014, 05:17 PM   #238
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Old January 31 2014, 02:21 AM   #239
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Interesting, and believable.
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

As a Vulcan might put it, fascinating.
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