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Old January 9 2014, 03:23 PM   #16
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

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and a gigantic scale unfathomable in previous Trek movies.
This I don't really get. In fact, this was one of my problems with the film: it treated what should have been a gigantic, vast area of space and effectively reduced it to the size of a solar system. You get from Kronos to Earth in the blink of an eye! You can see Kronos from the Neutral Zone! And not with your long-range sensors - with your eyes! It was like the filmmakers didn't get how big space is.
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Old January 9 2014, 03:39 PM   #17
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

Upstream Color is great. Europa Report was enjoyable and probably the best spin on this sort of story I've seen in a while. Star Trek Into Darkness is flashy, technically proficient movie with a hilarious mess of a story--much like Elysium, now that I think about it. Pacific Rim was loads of fun. How Del Toro got so much money to make what's basically a live-action homage to mecha anime, I'll never know, but I'm glad he did. Thor: The Dark World was fun, and definitely had some memorable visuals, but not much of a story. I haven't seen the others mentioned so I can't comment on them.
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Old January 9 2014, 11:27 PM   #18
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

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It was like the filmmakers didn't get how big space is.
They were parodying pulp SF that doesn't get how big space is. So it's actually really "clever," see...
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Old January 10 2014, 06:17 AM   #19
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Old January 11 2014, 07:34 AM   #20
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

Sci-fi I enjoyed in no particular order:

Oblivion

Man of Steel

World War Z

Star Trek - Into Darkness

Gravity

Riddick


Sci-fi I laughed at (not in a good way) or during which I zoned out completely due to boredom, in no particular order:

Elysium

The World's End

Europa Report

R.I.P.D.

I'm sure there's more I could mention, but I can't for the life of me think of anything else sci-fi I saw this year...so lump the rest into "meh, forgettable" territory.

As for Mission to Mars...Gary Sinise's eye liner! And giant cartoon ant aliens! And, well, damn, every single thing about that movie was hideously awful.
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Old January 18 2014, 08:03 PM   #21
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

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and a gigantic scale unfathomable in previous Trek movies.
This I don't really get. In fact, this was one of my problems with the film: it treated what should have been a gigantic, vast area of space and effectively reduced it to the size of a solar system. You get from Kronos to Earth in the blink of an eye! You can see Kronos from the Neutral Zone! And not with your long-range sensors - with your eyes! It was like the filmmakers didn't get how big space is.
I think in it's world building, it's attention to detail, and with showing us a real away mission as well as conflict spanning the stars and the Klingons, the movie is unparalleled within Star Trek. JJ Abrams creates more believable worlds in a few scenes with almost no narrative than even the TVs shows often did, much less the movies.

In order to have scale you have to cross scale...hence the faster speeds, and transwarp beaming. I don't have a problem with a greater star-spanning ability, look how well Star Wars did it (even though Lucas apparently didnt understand what a lightyear or parsec was).

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Old January 18 2014, 09:20 PM   #22
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I like Mission to Mars for various reasons, but agree it's not better than Gravity. What I mean is the disaster in space trope used in movies since the 1950s and updated in Mission to Mars was used again in Gravity, but some of the disaster scenes as they occur are much like MtM, not the whole movie. The scenes with the tether, the scramble to reach a spacecraft/station for safety uncontrollably, take up more than a few minutes of the movies and since they were integral to both, I can't help but compare them.
What else would they be connected by? Paper clips? Where else would they be scrambling to reach in outer space but a spacecraft or station? A taco stand? It's like saying Rush is basically a shot for shot remake of Ronin because of the fast cars... and all the chasing on the asphalt. Also, Mission to Mars took a gigantic steaming dump on the previous 4/5ths of the film with that horrendous ending, so I'm offended on general principle with any comparison being made between it and Gravity.

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Old January 19 2014, 02:55 AM   #23
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

1. Gravity
2. Star Trek Into Darkness
3. Catching Fire
4. Pacific Rim
5. Iron Man 3
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Old January 19 2014, 03:21 AM   #24
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My favorite scifi film of the year would be The World's End. After that, in no particular order, I enjoyed Pacific Rim, Star Trek Into Darkness and Man of Steel the most. I haven't yet seen Gravity, which by all accounts is fantastic, so until then I'll also add Iron Man 3 to my list.

Thor 2 was entertaining but incredibly forgettable with probably the Marvel series' least interesting story yet. World War Z was very, very meh.

I think that's all I saw last year.
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Old January 19 2014, 04:47 AM   #25
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1. Star Trek: Into Darkness
2. Gravity
3. Iron Man 3
4. Riddick
5. Pacific Rim
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

Top Five of 2013

Star Trek Into Darkness IMAX
Pacific Rim 3D
The Wolverine 3D
Elysium
Gravity 3D

Honorable Mention

Jurassic Park 3D
Star Trek: The Next Generation - The Best of Both Worlds
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Old January 20 2014, 11:52 PM   #27
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Man of Steel
Star Trek into Darkness
Oblivion
The Wolverine
World War z
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Star Trek Into Darkness
Oblivion
World War Z
Man of Steel
Iron Man 3
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Old January 21 2014, 12:27 AM   #29
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Now that I've seen it, I'll definitely be adding Europa Report to my list of favorite sf films from 2013. It's a really effective take on the found footage movie, which is surprising, considering how quickly that genre has played itself out.

Not that the Academy agrees or anything, but I found it to generally superior to Gravity (although I like both).

I still need to see Oblivion and Elysium.
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Old January 21 2014, 01:09 AM   #30
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Re: The year-end, 5 Best Sci-fi movies of 2013

In no particular order:
Star Trek Into Darkness
Pacific Rim
Iron Man 3
Oblivion
Thor: The Dark World
Honorable Mentions:
The World's End
Man of Steel
I haven't seen any of the other movies talked discussed above, but I do plan on seeing Europa Report, Elysium, Gravity and maybe Ender's Game, I haven't decided for sure on that last one yet.
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