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Old January 17 2014, 08:59 AM   #91
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Re: Why Wasn't Neelix considered a candidate for removal after season

meh.
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Old January 18 2014, 05:15 AM   #92
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I didn't hate his character. It was odd and peculiar though. "We need this guy as a guide...plus his wife is hot."

"I agree...let's put this important source of intel as....the chef!"

Seriously? It was like Guynan 2.

"We need this woman as she knows important information about some unknown alien species...plus temporal anomalies."

"I know. How about bartender???"
Guinan's people are listeners.
There is no better social setting to listen to people and their problems than a bar. People drink to relief stress and drown their sorrows. It was the prefect job for someone like her, that's why she chose it. All the Ambassadors & Diplomats visited 10 Forward. I can only imagine how many people from all over Guinan made friends with just tending bar on the Federation Flagship.

Neelix chose cook because he has no other skills and don't need allot of skill to cook, Chef yes. Cook, not so much. Look at Rachel Ray. However, cooking real food and less replicated saves the ship energy to be used instead for repairs. So Neelix' job actually helps the ship greatly. Plus Neelix being nosey/overly social works for him cause EVERYBODY needs to eat, so you kinda have no choice but to talk to him. The job fits his personality.
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Old January 20 2014, 07:35 PM   #93
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"I agree...let's put this important source of intel as....the chef!"
Neelix was "the supply sergeant:" he monitored rations and materials; he uses his position to gain the confidence of crew and officers; and he uses his connections with similar people to gain inside information. Neelix's presence on the ship would have made more sense if the show didn't dance around the fact that he represents and archetype.
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Old January 20 2014, 11:41 PM   #94
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If I was scooped up by Voyager in my current state of education and century I would be the cook too. I might also play with Naomi. Otherwise I would be useless. But I would certainly enjoy being armed with a tricorder and foraging for edible vegetables on varying planets and trading for foodstuffs with aliens and trying to devise recipes with limited ingredients that tasted okay.. this is almost my dream job
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Old January 21 2014, 12:41 AM   #95
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If I was scooped up by Voyager in my current state of education and century I would be the cook too. I might also play with Naomi.
Based on his ... unorthodox ... relationship with the 9-year-life-span Ocampa Kes, this might be the LAST thing you'd want to recommend Neelix do.
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Old January 21 2014, 12:44 AM   #96
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Kes is an adult, and she would be pretty pissed off if she was seen otherwise based on one species ageing rate differing from hers.
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Old January 21 2014, 12:49 AM   #97
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If she wasn't so nice, Kes might actually ask if the children on Voyager are backward or retarded in some way, because it shouldn't take months to a year just to figure out how to walk.
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Old January 21 2014, 02:03 AM   #98
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If I was an Ocampan freed from the underground city and hanging out with other species I would be seriously pissed off at what a bad deal I got with that lifespan.
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Old January 21 2014, 02:19 AM   #99
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But think how her memory is, how intuitive she must be to grasp everything instantly... Talking to almost every other species may seem like a trip to the old folks home to us, having to talk slowly and over explain and repeat everything.

Or on the other side, remark how you might patronize a 5 year old like their piddling accomplishments are fantastic and astounding...

Maybe Kes wasn't nice. Maybe we and the crew of the Star Ship Voyager are too stupid to recognize how condescending she is being to everyone 100 IQ points her junior?
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Old January 21 2014, 02:25 AM   #100
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I'd rather learn everything real slow and live longer. It seems to me that if are that genius and learn that fast and are super curious you would want to get out and see the universe and there is only so much universe you can fit into 9 years.

But yeah I could see her after a couple years, having left Voyager, remembering them all as odd pets she once had.
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Old January 21 2014, 02:45 AM   #101
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I think you'll find that she remembered them as odd pets which Kes resentful that she forgot to drown.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:04 AM   #102
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She could have at least desexed them before she took off!

Responsible pet ownership is a thing.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:37 AM   #103
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One baby was born after she left.

Are you sure Kes didn't neuter %99 crew?
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Since none of them were (presumably) trying for a child they would never find out until they got back.

B'Elanna's super Klingon eggs probably overcame whatever diddling Kes did.
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Old January 21 2014, 03:40 AM   #105
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Kes diddled the entire crew?

THAT HOOTCHIE!
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