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Old January 16 2014, 05:05 AM   #76
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I think the Doctor must have met Vastra sometime after (from his perspective) the events of "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood," because he didn't seem to have encountered her particular subspecies (i.e. makeup design) of Silurian before, and he explicitly said that he hadn't seen humans and Silurians working together before. So a revived Silurian living in Victorian London has got to be something he came across subjectively later than those events. Therefore, the only incarnation of the Doctor that Vastra can have met is the Eleventh.
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Old January 16 2014, 05:22 AM   #77
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Yep, came round to that after a second look at the pics.
Anyway, wonder how Strax will cope with the regeneration. Not in serious plot terms, Sontarans know about that stuff even ignoring the Strax Reports videos, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some comedy comments from him: "Why does he need a new face? One face should be all one person needs. Or one army! One face, standard issue for an entire army, that's the Sontaran way!"
This got me thinking, when did the Doctor first meet Vastra, Jenny and Strax anyway? The Doctor could have been in a previous incarnation when he met Vastra, given that she did know about regeneration in AGMGTW. Jenny likely did meet him for the first time in AGMGTW since she didn't recognize the TARDIS. But Strax, there is no real indication either way. It could have been a previous Doctor, though season 6 takes place two years after season 5, from the Doctor's perspective, so I guess it could have been there.
Vastra is the sister (Pouch-mate?) of the Silurian Prisoner who was killed in The Silurian Two-Parter, wasn't she?
There's no indication of that. That Silurian did have a twin sister, the Silurian military commander in that same story. And they were both also played by Neve McIntosh. However, it's never been stated that Vastra is related to the other two.

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I think the Doctor must have met Vastra sometime after (from his perspective) the events of "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood," because he didn't seem to have encountered her particular subspecies (i.e. makeup design) of Silurian before, and he explicitly said that he hadn't seen humans and Silurians working together before. So a revived Silurian living in Victorian London has got to be something he came across subjectively later than those events. Therefore, the only incarnation of the Doctor that Vastra can have met is the Eleventh.
Which now raises the questions how and why does Vastra know about regeneration? Although, I suppose she likely heard stories about other men known as the Doctor, and then asked the necessary questions and got an explanation.
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Old January 16 2014, 06:03 AM   #78
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Ah, OK, I must've mis-remembered a line of dialogue, about "my sister" somewhere along the way that led me to believe she was the Commander, or at least another sister

(For example, maybe The Doctor went back and saved her (Or he had a profound impact on her, that allowed her to save herself), and she became a force of good in the Universe)
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Old January 16 2014, 03:35 PM   #79
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Which now raises the questions how and why does Vastra know about regeneration? Although, I suppose she likely heard stories about other men known as the Doctor, and then asked the necessary questions and got an explanation.
Well, she is the inspiration for Sherlock Holmes, apparently. So she's good at deduction.

Maybe she met Jago and Litefoot and learned about other incarnations of the Doctor from them.
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Old January 16 2014, 04:30 PM   #80
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I think the Doctor must have met Vastra sometime after (from his perspective) the events of "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood," because he didn't seem to have encountered her particular subspecies (i.e. makeup design) of Silurian before, and he explicitly said that he hadn't seen humans and Silurians working together before. So a revived Silurian living in Victorian London has got to be something he came across subjectively later than those events. Therefore, the only incarnation of the Doctor that Vastra can have met is the Eleventh.
Yes, the eleventh Doctor must have met her after Cold Blood, no way around that and before AGMGTW for that matter.
That doesn't mean the Eleventh Doctor is the only incarnation or even the first Vastra has ever met.
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Old January 16 2014, 08:05 PM   #81
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Ah, OK, I must've mis-remembered a line of dialogue, about "my sister" somewhere along the way that led me to believe she was the Commander, or at least another sister

(For example, maybe The Doctor went back and saved her (Or he had a profound impact on her, that allowed her to save herself), and she became a force of good in the Universe)
In AGMGTW it is said that the Doctor prevented Vastra from murdering innocent people in response to the death of "her sisters" as a result of the construction of the London Underground. Clearly a different incident.
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Old January 16 2014, 10:09 PM   #82
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Maybe she met Jago and Litefoot and learned about other incarnations of the Doctor from them.
This needs to happen. Like, yesterday!
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Old January 17 2014, 12:26 AM   #83
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events of "The Hungry Earth"/"Cold Blood," because he didn't seem to have encountered her particular subspecies (i.e. makeup design) of Silurian before
Was the difference in makeup intended to be a different subspecies or just a difference in makeup for the modern audience?
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Old January 17 2014, 12:50 AM   #84
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Was the difference in makeup intended to be a different subspecies or just a difference in makeup for the modern audience?
Both. The Doctor specifically said these were a different branch of the species than the ones he'd encountered before, but it was a throwaway line to handwave the makeup change.
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Old January 17 2014, 01:32 AM   #85
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Maybe she met Jago and Litefoot and learned about other incarnations of the Doctor from them.
Well, according to The Brilliant Book 2012, Vastra once made a living as the main act in Jago's stage show, "Monstre Gathering," to the Doctor's disapproval.
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Old January 28 2014, 04:22 PM   #86
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Capalid in the new outfit films outdoor scenes
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/series-...lara-58308.htm





Clara's still wearing her christmas outfit from "Time"
BIG spoiler for the episode here, but the phone call Clara receives is





Video clip here
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-o...-films-6637884


Only audible bit I can make out is Capaldi saying

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Old January 28 2014, 05:22 PM   #87
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Interesting, might provide an answer to one of the minor mysteries of the last series.
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Old January 28 2014, 06:06 PM   #88
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Maybe I'm out to lunch here, but I kind of get the impression this is perhaps the final scene of the premiere. Just my thought anyway.
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Old January 28 2014, 06:27 PM   #89
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At a distance save for the colour and bow tie, Capaldi's costume does look quit a bit like Smiths. I think he should maybe have some looser fitting jeans/trousers.
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Old January 28 2014, 06:31 PM   #90
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The coat looks to tight IMO?
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