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Old January 11 2014, 03:44 AM   #16
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

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Consider this, the same thing could have happened to Riker, as did to Kirk in the Enemy Within, and unknown to everyone else, Will Riker was the "Bad Twin" and Tom Riker was the "Good Twin", but it was far less pronounced than Kirk's, where both Rikers had enough of the original Riker's personality to be good or bad, as the situation called for. Will Riker ended up getting the stern side of himself that was good for being command oriented, whereas Tom Riker got a little more of the personable and empathy side.

I think evidence to this is that it seems after the transporter accident, Riker was supposedly almost obsessed with becoming captain, even breaking up with Deanna to do it. Tom Riker did come off as more gentle than Will Riker (at least until DS9), and had he been the one to come back instead of Will Riker, I think he would have chosen Deanna over career, or at least turned down the promotion to be with her. I think that can also explain some hostility on Will Riker's part, because he felt guilty he did break up with Deanna years later, and when Tom entered the picture, it made him finally confront that guilt. So, he lashed out towards Tom Riker.
I like that theory, re: Will being an 'evil' transporter duplicate ala The Enemy Within (with the word 'evil' only being relative in this case, of course). Coming out of the accident with some of Riker's worser character qualities at the fore and his better ones more buried, while Tom is he opposite; having more of Will Riker's charm and less of his empty bravado.
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Old January 12 2014, 02:38 PM   #17
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

Never noticed this in honesty.

I think he was essentially a cool guy, confident, assured, and friendly.

I guess he wasn't welcoming to Thomas Riker, but then meeting yourself to all intents and purposes is not something any human is likely to encounter. I honestly don't know how I would react to me (who got trapped on a planet in a transporter anomaly lol..) 10 years ago.

He was a good friend to Picard, Geordi, Deanna, Worf, Data, Wesley, Beverly, Guinan, etc. so he wasn't bad at all IMO.
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Old January 12 2014, 09:40 PM   #18
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

Lots of people can be jerks sometimes. Look at Kirk, for instance. He could be pretty short at times, "I'm not interested in your excuses, Lieutenant.", or "How your lost love affects your vision doesn't interest me.". As someone above said, it's all part of the job sometimes!
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Old January 13 2014, 12:36 AM   #19
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

Riker was the officer in charge of crew discipline and evaluations. He was perfectly congenial to officers who did their jobs well. He only came down on people when they were slackers or got out of line. That was his job. He considered serving on the Federation flagship to be a privilege that had to be earned, not a right.
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Old January 13 2014, 06:08 AM   #20
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

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The XO of any ship (or any military organization) is not going to win any popularity contests. It's the Captain's privilege to be the impressive "old man" and make decisions and sometimes soften the impact when he/she thinks the XO is being too tough. It's a "good cop/bad cop" type of situation.
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Old January 14 2014, 02:23 AM   #21
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The XO of any ship (or any military organization) is not going to win any popularity contests. It's the Captain's privilege to be the impressive "old man" and make decisions and sometimes soften the impact when he/she thinks the XO is being too tough. It's a "good cop/bad cop" type of situation.
"If the crew doesn't hate the XO, he's not doing his job." - Saul Tigh
Very much what I was getting at. However, I think Riker did a pretty good job of balancing his personality with his job. It looks like he was fairly popular and managed to be pleasant at most times. Of course, he was always going to be feared to a certain extent, because getting on his wrong side could break your career track.
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Old January 14 2014, 10:28 PM   #22
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

I agree with the assertion that Riker was only a jerk to...well, jerks. Ro Laren, for example. She needed to be taken down a peg, and Riker was the perfect person to do it. And in that case, if Ro hadn't decided to be a jackass right back to him, then there wouldn't have been a problem.
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Old January 15 2014, 12:24 PM   #23
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Re: Theory Re: Why Riker's Such A Jerk Sometimes

Well jerk and fancy concurrently lol.. At least he "had his piece" in Conundrum, which Deanna endorsed lol..

As for scolding poor performers, it's his job. Which manager (which all senior officers in any military installation are by definition*) wouldn't? Was Picard a "dick" to Worf for killing Duras? To Beverly for doing an autopsy on the Ferengi scientist? To Data for being duplicitous in Clues?

* I know Starfleet is not exclusively military but it's structure, norms, customs and regulations are copied from the US Navy.
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