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View Poll Results: How does Seven of Nine look naked???
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Old December 17 2013, 07:19 PM   #1
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How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

I know this sounds like an absurd question, but let me explain: when the character 7/9 was created, they choose her to be portrayed by a good-looking actress (=hot), which Jeri Ryan is.

When they gave her the famous catsuit that polarized so many opinions, it was explained in-universe as "been designed by the Doctor with certain properties that would help her maintain her human skin once her Borg exoplating had been removed" (source: wikipedia )

So, considering 1) her horrible appearance as a full Borg drone and 2) if the Doctor wasn't able to remove all of the visible implants, probably he had to leave some in other parts of her body too,

Without the techno suit, does she look like a burn victim? would one see flesh without skin? scars in later seasons? is she a female Freddy Krueger from the neck down? a Cenobite?

or does she look like Jeri Ryan all over ?
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Old December 17 2013, 07:23 PM   #2
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

In-universe, I think we can assume that she would have a bunch of scars where the Borg stuff was attached to her body.
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Old December 17 2013, 07:35 PM   #3
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

Scars don't exist in the future, unless you want them to, or you don't have access to the tech.

Dermal regenerators.

Little q takes her clothes off in his adventure, and the Doctor has a dream about painting her naked.

EMH: I've extracted eighty two percent of the Borg hardware. The remaining bio-implants are stable and better than anything I could synthesise at such short notice.
SEVEN: It is acceptable.
EMH: Fashion, of course, is hardly my forte. Nevertheless I've managed to balance functionality and aesthetics in a pleasing enough manner. I also took the liberty of stimulating your hair follicles. A vicarious experience for me, as you might imagine.
JANEWAY: You'll have to spend a few hours each day regenerating in a Borg alcove until your human metabolism can function on it's own. We'll leave one operational.
SEVEN: Understood.
I think functionality is another word for unrestricted movement.

(Is what she is always wearing a 24th century jogging suit? Now think about the stereotypical wise guys and guidos (And seniors) in 20th century jogging suits they wear for all occasions.)

Is there canonical evidence that her cat suits do any thing medical?

If they did, why does she spend all that time regenerating every day?
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Old December 18 2013, 12:12 AM   #4
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

She regenerates instead of sleeps. So I don't think it's any more (probably less) than people sleep?

She would have looked awful, probably terrible skin and scars and discoloration after they peeled that Borg suit off. But they can do anything in the future.
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Old December 18 2013, 01:24 AM   #5
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They removed a third of a her skull in the Gift.

I could argue that they were standing there completely awake for 6 or 7 ours a day if it wasn't for Unimatrix Zero.

Borg Consciousnesses in the Hive are sent places during regeneration, but of course these drones on Voyager do not belong to a networked Hive.

So, were did the %99 of the Borg go during regeneration who didn't go to Unimatrix Zero?

There can't be a workhouse for their minds, becuase other wise their truancy would have been noticed.

Hmmm?
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Old December 18 2013, 01:33 AM   #6
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

Well' we got a glimpse of her bare arms in "Tsunkatse" , I guess the rest of her would have some kind of implant scars like that. Although, she did have a perfectly lovely bare back in "Q2".
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Old December 18 2013, 01:36 AM   #7
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That's called "Bacl". In the context of a human nude, what we saw of Jeri's body, it's called "Full Bacl".

There's a Board-member called Bacl.

I smile when I see that name.
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Old December 18 2013, 02:06 AM   #8
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

Would she have kept wearing the suit, once she was "healed," or whatever? If it kept her skin soft and smooth, she might like it! There may be a form of vanity at work, here ... aside from just the look of it, on her.
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Old December 18 2013, 02:30 AM   #9
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Well she didn't care is what we got from Q2, but she wanted a blue uniform is what we got from Human error.
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Old December 18 2013, 09:54 AM   #10
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But red is her favorite colour.
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Old December 18 2013, 10:05 AM   #11
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

Picard wore those band-aids in "The Best of Both Worlds Part II" [link]. So, the suit isn't unreasonable, at least not for a period of time up to a season.
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Old December 18 2013, 11:43 AM   #12
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I feel it must be pointed out that all instances of partial nudity were inconclusive: Q, Jr. can do whatever and the Doctor was just fantasizing.
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Old December 18 2013, 05:40 PM   #13
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The Doctor has not only seen every member of the crew "mostly" to completely naked during their physicals, but considering that his eyes in his head are not how he sees things, but instead this lightbulb uses (10's of?) thousands of sensors placed about in sickbay to scan the room... So really he should be able to see through an length of light as well through their clothes, since his "eyes" should at least be as good as the sensors on the transportor pads that help pull people apart and put them back together again.... Or 200 networked tricorders circling the patient.

(Unless in an effort to seem human to his patients, the EMH isn't using 99 percent of his visual abilities.)

If this was true, when using his mobile emitter, the Doctor is almost handicapped.
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Old December 18 2013, 10:34 PM   #14
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Re: How does Seve of Nine look like naked???

If there were Borg implants on her body, wouldn't we see them disturbing the smooth lines of the cat suit? And we know scars are totally optional in the 24th century. If the Doctor bothered to stimulate hair growth I expect he removed the scars too.
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Old December 18 2013, 10:55 PM   #15
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There's "stuff" bobbing on her surface... But most of it are roots.
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