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Old August 4 2014, 02:29 PM   #271
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Brand X

There have been many creepy and disturbing episodes of this series, Home probably being the most memorable. Brand X might be the most disgusting episode I've seen this series do. All he beetles coming out of the mouth, the disfigured jaws, and the make up work to show how bad smoking is for you was really nasty. This episode should be used as a PSA of tobacco usage.

One thing I did find interesting was the start of the project was intended to make smoking healthier for you, yet now in 2014 we have these E Cigs. X files beig ahead of its time for this episode, which I liked better than All Things.
Always liked this one. A very creepy Tobin Bell performance & it's got some great Mark Snow music.
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Old August 4 2014, 02:36 PM   #272
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A hologram killed people? How can a hologram cut off somebody's hands? Ugh. Maybe I just missed it somewhere.
The safety protocols were offline. Obviously.
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Old August 4 2014, 03:02 PM   #273
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I thought it was X-Files and not TNG. My mistake.
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Old August 4 2014, 03:19 PM   #274
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I think the rules are the same for all 90s sci-fi.
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Old August 5 2014, 11:43 PM   #275
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Fight Club

Remember the other day I was struggling to come up with an episode of this series I truly hated, and tried to defend First Person Shooter? Well there is an episode I absolutely hate and it was called Fight Club.

For those not familiar, this is the episode that featured Kathy Griffen in a duel role. I haven't hidden the fact that my favorite series right now is Orphan Black and I believe Tatiana Maslany is the best Actress working today. Well, she is also setting the standard of his type of acting, the clone or identical twin motif, that seems to come up in the sci if genre. One of my favorite episodes of Voyager featured Kate Mulgrew in the identical acting against yourself role, which I also like.

Watching Fight club, all I can think was how bad it was to cast Griffen in that kind of role. She is awful and this episode was Garbage. Yeah I know at the time Maslany was 15, but I still think she would have acted circles around Griffen. As for the plot, ugh...

I did enjoy Hollywood AD (probably the funniest episode of the series) and Je Souhaite (really warm and genuine, with a great actress ast the Genie). Looking forward to Requiem, which according to the plot references the first episode quite a bit.
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Old August 6 2014, 06:28 AM   #276
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Requiem/Within/Without

Welcome to the John Doggett Era of the show everyone. As the beginning of the Enterprise theme says, "It's been a long road", but Dechovney is only on the show for half of Season 8, and we meet T-1000, aka Robert Patrick as Scully's new partner.

Going back to the season 7 finale, that was a hell of a finale. In fact, these three episodes is probably the best three episode sequence since Anazasi/The Blessing Way/Paper Clip, which I think were the three best Mythology episodes of the series. Requiem goes back to the first case, dealing with the alien abductees in Oregon and ends with two bombshells, Mulder is taken and Scully is pregnant. I really hope they explain Scully's pregnancy as Season 8 goes on, because there's part of it that makes me question the whole Barren thing.

As for the start of Season 8, great introduction of Doggett. Maybe since the series has been off for so long, I'm looking at these episodes from the point of view of I knew it was coming so I kind of accepted it when I started this watch. I also really liked Scully, who really kicked a ton of ass in this episode, here. We also saw the return of Gibson Praise, the wiz kid from Season 5/6, and that was a welcome return. As for Mulder, we see him being tested on by a whole lot of the Alien Bounty Hunters. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes, and to getting to know Doggett more as the season goes on.

A lot of people have said that the later seasons of the show aren't that good. Well, I'm in season 8 now and going by the first two episodes, I'd say the season is off to a strong start. I also like the new title sequence, which feels like an extension of the old title sequence.
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and Je Souhaite

For me, this was the worst episode of the X Files... ever!
The premise just didn't belong. The only, only way it could have been worse, if they'd cast Barbara Eden! They should have cast Barbara Eden. That would have truly nuked the shark, jumped the fridge!
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Old August 6 2014, 12:29 PM   #278
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I love Je Souhaite! It's probably the last truly sweet comedy episode TXF ever really did. Bonkers, of course, but lots of fun.

As to S8, I'm very much an advocate. At the time all us Philies struggled to accept Doggett over Mulder but in retrospect, he's a really good character & S8 gets back to what TXF very much was in its early years - quite remote, dark & creepy storytelling, before then giving way to a great mythology run to the finish. It's among the show's better seasons IMO.

Shame then about S9, but still...
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Old August 6 2014, 03:34 PM   #279
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A lot of people have said that the later seasons of the show aren't that good. Well, I'm in season 8 now and going by the first two episodes, I'd say the season is off to a strong start.
I love Season 8, especially these early episodes that you just watched.
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Old August 6 2014, 08:18 PM   #280
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Fight Club was that other episode with FPS I mentioned.
Not good.



I loved the episode with the Janaya, that was great! It had everything.

I think Dogget is great. I would have like him to be able to stick around even longer, but it's hard to do when your show is cancelled.

It depends on what you want out of X-Files. Do you want a story about agents that investigate unsolved cases that involve strange elements or do you want to see the Mulder and Scully show? I think a lot of people tuned in for the first thing and loved the characters so much it turned into the second thing. That's not a bad thing, but then having a new guy come in changes things. So, I understand some complaints, but I thought the last two seasons were still very good, especially season 8. I might pick season 8 as higher than seasons 5 and 7 actually, but I'm not big on absolute rankings.
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Old August 6 2014, 11:24 PM   #281
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Fight Club was that other episode with FPS I mentioned.
Not good.



I loved the episode with the Janaya, that was great! It had everything.

I think Dogget is great. I would have like him to be able to stick around even longer, but it's hard to do when your show is cancelled.

It depends on what you want out of X-Files. Do you want a story about agents that investigate unsolved cases that involve strange elements or do you want to see the Mulder and Scully show? I think a lot of people tuned in for the first thing and loved the characters so much it turned into the second thing. That's not a bad thing, but then having a new guy come in changes things. So, I understand some complaints, but I thought the last two seasons were still very good, especially season 8. I might pick season 8 as higher than seasons 5 and 7 actually, but I'm not big on absolute rankings.
I remember one of the first things someone told me when I started watching this series was that the Mulder/Scully relationship was more professional than sexual, and that the characters had great chemistry because of that professional relationship. In Season 7, however, that relationship was starting to trend more towards intimate, especially in the later episodes and the finale. I thought the Kiss in Millenium was nice because of the context of it, but it did start this trend of getting them closer than ever before as the season went on. With Doggett, I almost get the sense that the show needed this shake up, and we're right back where we were when it started. I don't say that as a bad thing, per say, but it is an interesting thought to finally split up the characters and see what happens. What we got in the first two episodes of the season was a welcome change from where Season 7 was going.
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To be fair to Chris Carter, he waited as long as he could to hit the inevitable point where Mulder & Scully became more than partners & friends - that was unavoidable once the alchemy of ongoing narratives, two actors with sex appeal & great chemistry & two such well drawn characters were placed in the mix. The show was richer & warmer & deeper for those elements.

That said, the earlier seasons where the characters were more professionally minded allowed for scarier tales, and S8 did manage to get back to that by blowing a huge crater in the M&S dynamic. It was just too late to shake the show up enough really to keep it on air another 8 years.
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Roadrunners

That episode was creepy. X Files have done a lot with Cults in the series run, but this episode was actually very engaging and really interesting to watch. So far what I've liked about Doggett is while most other shows have featured heavily a new actor (Like DS9 did with Nicole DeBoar or Voyager did with Jeri Ryan), X Files seemed to allow Scully and Doggett to come together a little more naturally. Scully still hates this guy and in the last episode we saw that maybe she is starting to accept that Mulder isn't coming back. Here, I think she's finally starting to see Doggett as a partner and had to make the mistake of taking the case on her own to see that.

As for the slug, man that was disturbing seeing Scully put through that, and then when Doggett took it out, it was equally disturbing. This reminded me of early X Files creepiness.
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That episode was creepy. X Files have done a lot with Cults in the series run, but this episode was actually very engaging and really interesting to watch. So far what I've liked about Doggett is while most other shows have featured heavily a new actor (Like DS9 did with Nicole DeBoar or Voyager did with Jeri Ryan), X Files seemed to allow Scully and Doggett to come together a little more naturally. Scully still hates this guy and in the last episode we saw that maybe she is starting to accept that Mulder isn't coming back. Here, I think she's finally starting to see Doggett as a partner and had to make the mistake of taking the case on her own to see that.

As for the slug, man that was disturbing seeing Scully put through that, and then when Doggett took it out, it was equally disturbing. This reminded me of early X Files creepiness.

After everything that had happened to them before, this still freaked me out. I'm not sure why, but I really go the feeling watching this that Scully might not make it, (even thought I knew she was not leaving the show), they just made the story convincing to me, the threat seemed real. Almost every show in history, you know at the begining no matter what happens that everybody will be there at the end. Yes there are some notable exceptions, but really, this one, especially the scene you refrenced, with the monster crawling in her back. I'm wincing typing this. As much as I like Mulder, and I really do, I didn't think his leaving really hurt the show. And they way he left, it actually helped the show.
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To be fair to Chris Carter, he waited as long as he could to hit the inevitable point where Mulder & Scully became more than partners & friends - that was unavoidable once the alchemy of ongoing narratives, two actors with sex appeal & great chemistry & two such well drawn characters were placed in the mix. The show was richer & warmer & deeper for those elements.

That said, the earlier seasons where the characters were more professionally minded allowed for scarier tales, and S8 did manage to get back to that by blowing a huge crater in the M&S dynamic. It was just too late to shake the show up enough really to keep it on air another 8 years.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head . He could only go on for so long with the Will they or Won't they? dance for so long before it would become a joke.
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