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Old December 14 2013, 04:54 PM   #76
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What is that, Doctor Who or something?
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On that show's titles "Doctor" is spelled out. Although it wasn't a consideration before the revival, spelling "Doctor" out also makes the anagram with the Torchwood spinoff work.
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Old December 14 2013, 05:09 PM   #77
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Old December 14 2013, 07:42 PM   #78
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I think this air quality problem is particularly bad in cities where the local geography forms a 'bowl' where the air can just sit stagnantly for weeks during different times of the year.
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I think this air quality problem is particularly bad in cities where the local geography forms a 'bowl' where the air can just sit stagnantly for weeks during different times of the year.
Very true.
That is exactly why Denver has had wood burning restrictions for decades.
It also is exactly the reason why such a Republican stronghold area as Maricopa County, Arizona has had these same restrictions in place for almost two decades.

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Personally, I'm shocked that the San Francisco area has made such a liberal policy decision.
Do I need to send someone to pick you up off the floor for just showing that these same restrictions are in place in Arizona, where they question people because they look like they are Mexican?
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Old December 16 2013, 04:45 PM   #79
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Wood burning has been a huge problem here in Greece during this and the past year. Most people cannot afford to use their heating systems - which are mostly based on petrol - because of high taxes for petrol. Since most people live in blocks of flats rather than houses and the heating systems are usually centralized, this means that even those who can afford it cannot have heating (because the rest of the residents cannot pay). Thus, more and more people have been using their fireplaces which - up to know - where mostly decorative.

Many cities (mine included) have time-traveled back to the previous century and the fog of the fireplaces is clearly visible and inhalable. The government has been issuing warnings about the danger to public health, but obviously most of these people cannot stop burning wood because it is their only way of heating...

It is a really unfortunate situation.
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Old December 16 2013, 05:07 PM   #80
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Is using an electrical heater really more expensive than burning wood? Obviously, you'd have to buy one first if you didn't already own one but they strike me as more efficient than using a fireplace (if you even have one).

I have one that I sometimes use because the heating in our house gets switched on only late in autumn when my apartment is already pretty cold because I live on the ground floor.
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Old December 16 2013, 07:55 PM   #81
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^ The pain of using space heaters, as I've been experiencing lately, is that they tend to trip the circuit breaker in various rooms of my house, especially when such heaters are running simultaneously, resulting in power interruptions. I've done some research and realized that most home electrical outlets have a maximum of 15 to 20 amps; since a space heater uses a lot of energy, it often triggers the circuit breaker when two many other appliances are running or plugged into an outlet. It appears having a "dedicated circuit" for a heater would be advisable.

I think the best way to keep warm is to turn on your furnace/central heating. Unfortunately, our home's furnace isn't working at the moment because the pilot needs to be ignited. I haven't been getting much sleep lately ... My room is too cold, and I constantly have to get up during the night to reset the breaker. I'm waiting on my sister to call the gas company.
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Old December 16 2013, 08:15 PM   #82
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^ Also, concerning electrical heating, in our house we happen to have A/C. However, when the temperature outside is around 0°C, the A/C units struggle but do not seem to be able to raise the temperature enough. The "quality" of the heat is much lower when compared to than of the central petrol-based heating system. (Fireplace heating is also not good though - you cannot warm up an entire room, let alone an entire house!)
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Old December 16 2013, 08:21 PM   #83
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^ The pain of using space heaters, as I've been experiencing lately, is that they tend to trip the circuit breaker in various rooms of my house, especially when such heaters are running simultaneously, resulting in power interruptions. I've done some research and realized that most home electrical outlets have a maximum of 15 to 20 amps; since a space heater uses a lot of energy, it often triggers the circuit breaker when two many other appliances are running or plugged into an outlet. It appears having a "dedicated circuit" for a heater would be advisable.
I had smaller ones in mind than the ones you seem to be describing. They don't need as much energy. I have rather shoddy electrical lines in my apartment and never had a problem.
They're not as good as actual heating, of course, but you can manage to get a room relatively warm.
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Old December 16 2013, 08:38 PM   #84
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I think the best way to keep warm is to turn on your furnace/central heating. Unfortunately, our home's furnace isn't working at the moment because the pilot needs to be ignited. I haven't been getting much sleep lately ... My room is too cold, and I constantly have to get up during the night to reset the breaker. I'm waiting on my sister to call the gas company.
Then go and light the pilot...
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Old December 16 2013, 09:42 PM   #85
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Very late in the game on this, but Albuquerque has had the ability to call for "no-burn nights" for years and years... Obviously if you have not other source of heat, you're exempt, but for the rest of the population, compliance is a must. The police don't carry out enforcement, city workers do.. A lot of time, just like with our watering restrictions and firework bans, a lot of the population is on the lookout for violators.

We live in a bowl and as such, our inversion is a killer in the winter time, and you can really see the smoke in the valley..

Yes, it sucks not being able to have a fire sometimes, but it's a small price to pay for air quality...
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Old December 16 2013, 10:04 PM   #86
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Definitely a good idea to limit smoke being released into the air, but in this case it means forcing people to use a much more expensive means of heating in a city that already has the highest cost of living in the country. Electricity/gas ain't cheap, and is it really worse for the environment to burn wood than oil or however that electricity is being generated?
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Old December 16 2013, 10:14 PM   #87
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Electricity/gas ain't cheap, and is it really worse for the environment to burn wood than oil or however that electricity is being generated?
I think it's worse for those areas that are bowls and the wood smoke doesn't dissipate for days or weeks.
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Old December 17 2013, 01:07 AM   #88
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I think the best way to keep warm is to turn on your furnace/central heating. Unfortunately, our home's furnace isn't working at the moment because the pilot needs to be ignited. I haven't been getting much sleep lately ... My room is too cold, and I constantly have to get up during the night to reset the breaker. I'm waiting on my sister to call the gas company.
Then go and light the pilot...
I don't know how to do it. I'm afraid I might trigger something that could blow up our house.
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Gryff Gryngle wrote: View Post
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I think the best way to keep warm is to turn on your furnace/central heating. Unfortunately, our home's furnace isn't working at the moment because the pilot needs to be ignited. I haven't been getting much sleep lately ... My room is too cold, and I constantly have to get up during the night to reset the breaker. I'm waiting on my sister to call the gas company.
Then go and light the pilot...
I don't know how to do it. I'm afraid I might trigger something that could blow up our house.
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Old December 17 2013, 02:55 AM   #90
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I think the best way to keep warm is to turn on your furnace/central heating. Unfortunately, our home's furnace isn't working at the moment because the pilot needs to be ignited. I haven't been getting much sleep lately ... My room is too cold, and I constantly have to get up during the night to reset the breaker. I'm waiting on my sister to call the gas company.
Then go and light the pilot...
I don't know how to do it. I'm afraid I might trigger something that could blow up our house.
Natural gas equipment is normally designed to interrupt the flow of fuel unless the pilot light is heating a component in the equipment OR a person is holding an override button. On many devices you rotate a knob to the ON position, hold the button, PROMPTLY apply fire (fireplace match, grill lighter etc) and wait about half a minute to release the button.

Of course it's not a bad idea to have a professional give a furnace a brief annual inspection in combination with a pilot lighting visit. The purpose for the inspection is mainly for ventilation issues like blocked exhaust or cracks in a furnace's heat exchanger.

Some equipment saves fuel by not using a pilot light. An electric arc activates to ignite the burner each time it is needed.
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