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Old December 8 2013, 03:07 PM   #1
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is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

I just found out that there are two amazing star trek games that act just like 2 extra seasons of the original series. I was just wondering if these are cannon.
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Old December 8 2013, 03:12 PM   #2
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

No. They aren't canon.
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Old December 8 2013, 08:04 PM   #3
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

Anytime you're unsure if something is part of Star Trek canon, the answer is always no. Similarly, if you're unsure whether your religion is actually a cult, the answer is yes.
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Old December 9 2013, 03:51 AM   #4
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25th Anniversary is canon on odd-number days, Judgement Rights on even-numbered days.
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Old December 9 2013, 09:05 AM   #5
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They're both great games, and both are very authentic to the spirit of TOS. But no, they aren't canon. None of the Star Trek video games are.
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Old December 9 2013, 04:35 PM   #6
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is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?
Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
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Old December 9 2013, 05:24 PM   #7
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is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?
Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
Amen!
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Old December 12 2013, 01:07 PM   #8
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?
Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
All tech manuals? I always thought the TNG and the DS9 tech book were in fact cannon.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:15 PM   #9
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

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is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?
Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
All tech manuals? I always thought the TNG and the DS9 tech book were in fact cannon.
Nothing is canon outside of live-action episodes and movies.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:17 PM   #10
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

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is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?
Nope. Nor any of the novels, comics, technical manuals, the other videogames or fanzines canon either.

But canon is not and never will be a gauge of quality.
All tech manuals? I always thought the TNG and the DS9 tech book were in fact cannon.
There's a disclaimer in the front of the TNG tech manual stating outright that it has no pretensions about being 'canon' (besides, several things mentioned therein, such as all the talk about the Starfleet's next big new starship design, were explicitly denied by future screen material).

Much to his credit, Okuda's books over the years (the chronology too) were always quite humble in saying, "We do not own the canon". Even though, as a member of production staff, he probably could have imposed his own interpretation as being the 'real' one if he wanted to... he never actually did, except in those cases where it came up naturally on-screen and he was able to sneak some of his explanations into the canon. On those occasions it became legitimate, but unless that happened then... nope, nothing in the tech manuals is strictly canon, unless the reader wants to interpret it as such.
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Old December 12 2013, 01:21 PM   #11
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

There are many posters on this board who regularly comment on this issue - how even "official" canon is often ignored or modified in some way. But to trot out the "party line" - if doesn't happen on screen in a completed episode or film, it isn't canon.

Oh, one other thing, let's just ignore TAS in reference to the above if that's OK!
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Old December 12 2013, 03:23 PM   #12
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

And, please, as a public-service reminder to all concerned: the word is "canon," not "cannon."

Sorry to be a spelling freak, but, honestly, it's like like nails on a blackboard . . . like "Kahn" instead of "Khan"!
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Old December 12 2013, 03:27 PM   #13
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

Is Wrath of Kahn cannon?
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Old December 12 2013, 03:42 PM   #14
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Re: is 25th aniversary and judgement right cannon?

It's a photonic canon!
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Old December 12 2013, 07:59 PM   #15
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Is Wrath of Kahn cannon?
Okay, that's just mean . . .
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