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Old December 11 2013, 12:51 AM   #31
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WOW. Thanks for the indepth look into that whole process. The death of Picard would have definitely been bittersweet. S&S was thinking of not renewing the license? Wild. I wonder what changed their minds? I wonder if it was sales? You'd think that if the books were selling well, that they never would have considered dropping the license. curious...
The impression I had was that the license was up for renewal and they just weren't entirely certain it would be renewed, so they were hedging their bets. I hadn't heard before that they were actually thinking of dropping it.

Anyway, a lot of the schedule for 2012 was affected by the possibility of the license ending. Vanguard came to an end, and both The Eternal Tide and Plagues of Night/Raise the Dawn told stories that wrapped up old threads while establishing a new status quo, so that they could serve as either finales or new beginnings, depending on what happened with the license.

I thought it might also have been the reason The Romulan War was trimmed from a trilogy to a duology, but that actually wrapped up in late 2011, so I'm not sure.
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Old December 11 2013, 01:36 AM   #32
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I thought it might also have been the reason The Romulan War was trimmed from a trilogy to a duology, but that actually wrapped up in late 2011, so I'm not sure.
Off-topic: At least in the German release The Romulan War receives an expansion to its justly deserved trilogy status.
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Old December 11 2013, 02:31 AM   #33
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The impression I had was that the license was up for renewal and they just weren't entirely certain it would be renewed, so they were hedging their bets. I hadn't heard before that they were actually thinking of dropping it.
I've been around long enough that I should probably understand this, but I don't. I thought S&S was owned by the company that owned Trek in general, so this was in-house and there wasn't a specific licensing period like Star Wars. I seem to be way off base on that.

Does this work like Star Wars, where S&S is contracted for x number of books over y number of years, or is it more general than that?

It seems weird to me that the whole TrekLit line that I love so much would've maybe ended without any indication that was happening, since Star Wars is so transparent about the process. But I'm probably overthinking it.
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Old December 11 2013, 03:07 AM   #34
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S&S is required to bid upon and negotiate the Star Trek books license with the copyright holder, regardless of their mutual connection to a corporate parent. If they didn't, the copyright holder would be subject to lawsuits for failing to maximize the profit of the Star Trek license. (This was the basis of Chris Carter's lawsuit regarding the sweetheart licensing deal the corporate owner of The X-Files granted to one of its corporate affiliate networks, thereby undercutting his share of the show's syndication profits.) The contracts specify a duration, the number of titles, and which incarnations of the property they can base works upon.
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Old December 11 2013, 03:35 AM   #35
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Wow this is all very interesting David. Thanks for all the behind the scenes info!

I would have been ok if the licence had ended and we had gottten alot of the Trek Universe storylines wrapped up. It would have been a great jumping off point, because as it is as long as good Trek books keep coming out, I'm gonna have to keep reading them.
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Old December 11 2013, 04:59 AM   #36
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Wow, I can't believe Pocket almost didn't renew the license. It would have been interesting to see exactly how the last book would have ended.
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Old December 11 2013, 05:12 AM   #37
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If Pocket had let the license lapse, it's likely some other publisher would've picked it up, although in that case they might've started a new continuity, as each of the comics publishers has done when they've obtained the license.
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Old December 11 2013, 09:37 AM   #38
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Well, personally I rather like how the novelverse has progressed and would have been rather upset if someone had pushed the Reset Button.
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Old December 11 2013, 03:32 PM   #39
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Well, personally I rather like how the novelverse has progressed and would have been rather upset if someone had pushed the Reset Button.
I feel the same way. Good thing they renewed it
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S&S is required to bid upon and negotiate the Star Trek books license with the copyright holder, regardless of their mutual connection to a corporate parent. If they didn't, the copyright holder would be subject to lawsuits for failing to maximize the profit of the Star Trek license. (This was the basis of Chris Carter's lawsuit regarding the sweetheart licensing deal the corporate owner of The X-Files granted to one of its corporate affiliate networks, thereby undercutting his share of the show's syndication profits.) The contracts specify a duration, the number of titles, and which incarnations of the property they can base works upon.
Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it. That's really interesting and I didn't know that at all. I can certainly see Carter's perspective.

I'm probably pushing it at this point, but do you know the duration or number of titles of the current contract, slash can you share it?
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Old December 11 2013, 08:08 PM   #41
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Mr. Mack thank you so much for answering my questions.I appreciate the information and the story ideas you mentioned about what the original Cold Equations series was intended to be storywise .I'm so glad that S&S decided to renew their liscense for the Startrek book line.I like the other Star Trek series of books have been handled this year a lot of terrific stories I really like the Fall miniseries.Your Picard story sounds interesting also the Worf&Alexander story would've been good novel too.I can't wait to read your novel Disavowed!
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I'm probably pushing it at this point, but do you know the duration or number of titles of the current contract, slash can you share it?
^ I'm not privy to the specific details of the contract, no.
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Old December 11 2013, 11:28 PM   #43
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I'm probably pushing it at this point, but do you know the duration or number of titles of the current contract, slash can you share it?
^ I'm not privy to the specific details of the contract, no.
Gotcha.

Thanks again for sharing all of that, though. Like you, I'm especially intrigued by the idea of that final Picard novel - that sounds like the kind of story you'd really have nailed. (Of course, all things being equal, having a thriving ongoing Trek narrative is probably better, but still.)
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Old December 12 2013, 01:57 AM   #44
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Sometimes I think it would be an interesting experience to start over with a new Trek novel continuity, not bound by the assertions of the existing one. That's something I thought I was getting a chance to do with my Abramsverse novel, but we know what happened to that project. Still, I enjoyed the opportunity to do something different with the characters and continuity.

Of course, if another publisher did take over the license, there's no guarantee they'd hire the same authors. Which is why I'm glad it stayed with Pocket.
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Old December 12 2013, 06:52 AM   #45
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When the license for Star Wars switched from Bantam to Del Rey many of the same authors who'd written for Bantam continued to write for Del Rey. Of course, that doesn't mean the same thing would have happened had the Star Trek license gone to a new publisher. Just pointing out that it has happened before.

Fortunately we don't have to worry about that. I'm glad Pocket decided not to let the license lapse; I really like the stable of writers they've put together.
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