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Old December 5 2013, 05:04 PM   #106
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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Well, I wouldn't say that's what I was necessarily arguing but along those lines I'd "sort of" agree she just doesn't have WW's figure.
Hugh Jackman doesn't have Wolverine's figure either. Wolverine has been described as being like a big, brawny man who's been compressed vertically; he's supposed to be unusually short, broad, and stocky. The whole point of the name "Wolverine" is that he's abnormally tough and scrappy for his small size. But Jackman is tall and lanky. Physically, he's entirely wrong for the role. Yet audiences have accepted him anyway.

The simple fact is, you're almost never going to find someone who looks exactly like a pre-existing character, especially one as physically exaggerated as a comic-book character. And even if you do, there's no guarantee they'll be right for the part in other ways. So as a rule, you don't make looks your priority. You cast the best performer for the part, the one you think is most up to the acting and/or physical demands of the role and has the best chemistry with the rest of the cast. And you accept the change in looks because it's not the exact same character, it's a distinct interpretation of them.

Look at the Harry Potter movies. Both Hermione and Neville were meant to be rather plain-looking and nerdy, but both their portrayers grew up to be quite strikingly good-looking. Yet the filmmakers didn't recast the roles. They stuck with the performers despite their appearance, because they were talented and good at their jobs.

And then of course there are actors like Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin, Idris Elba as Heimdall, Laurence Fishburne as Perry White, etc. Changing how those characters looked didn't turn out to be a problem in the end.

Bottom line, they aren't casting models for a photo shoot. They're casting actors. So it's about more than how they look.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:05 PM   #107
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I'm of two minds on this. On the one hand, my initial reaction was along the "she's kind of petite for Diana, I was picturing somebody more... Korra-esque, really."
I'm not a big fan of body-builder Wonder Woman, but if they had gone with Gina Carano, the inspiration for Korra, I would have liked that. She's also Cavil's ex girlfriend.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:27 PM   #108
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^ Yeah, the store-bought Halloween costume.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:27 PM   #109
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I don't care about boobs, but she cerainly doesnt look like she could throw a punch. For that she would need bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger legs, aka putting on some weight, putting on some muscle, doing some lifting. Come on. Male actors get send to the weight room of the gym to give us at least an illusion of strength. And with the females it's always just "look thin, look weak". Bah. I want more Starbucks and Gabrielles -.-
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Old December 5 2013, 05:28 PM   #110
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Wow, that's from a porn parody? They did a pretty good job matching her New 52 look.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:28 PM   #111
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I feel like this thread as turned into a Babe of the Week thread. Ick.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:31 PM   #112
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I don't care about boobs, but she cerainly doesnt look like she could throw a punch. For that she would need bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger legs, aka putting on some weight, putting on some muscle, doing some lifting. Come on. Male actors get send to the weight room of the gym to give us at least an illusion of strength. And with the females it's always just "look thin, look weak". Bah. I want more Starbucks and Gabrielles -.-
You don't have to worry about Gal getting in fighting shape for the role. Just look at what Antje Traue/ Faora had to go through preparing for Man Of Steel

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Old December 5 2013, 05:32 PM   #113
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Everybody's got an opinion on what WW should look like. I personally feel that it is not unreasonable to expect that a woman who comes from a warrior race to at least look athletic enough to be a warrior.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:33 PM   #114
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I couldn't access the linked pics because you have to register to see them.
sorry, I deleted the post then
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Old December 5 2013, 05:35 PM   #115
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I don't care about boobs, but she cerainly doesnt look like she could throw a punch. For that she would need bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger legs, aka putting on some weight, putting on some muscle, doing some lifting. Come on. Male actors get send to the weight room of the gym to give us at least an illusion of strength. And with the females it's always just "look thin, look weak". Bah. I want more Starbucks and Gabrielles -.-
But that's simply not what Wonder Woman looks like.

I really wonder where this fixation on muscular women comes from. Does it have something to do with what some people perceive to be "realistic" and all that nonsense?
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Old December 5 2013, 05:38 PM   #116
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You seem to have the misconception that putting on muscle means automatically being overly muscular.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:38 PM   #117
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I don't care about boobs, but she cerainly doesnt look like she could throw a punch. For that she would need bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger legs, aka putting on some weight, putting on some muscle, doing some lifting.
This is a myth. People don't have to be bulky-looking to be strong. Women in particular can be muscular without having obvious surface definition, because they naturally have a higher percentage of body fat than men. Female bodybuilders have to reduce their body fat percentage to an unhealthy degree in order to show the same surface definition as male bodybuilders. And really, the surface definition is all show, not substance. Look at photos of strongmen from decades past and they often looked a lot leaner and flabbier than professional bodybuilders today. But the difference is superficial, a matter of sculpting more than functional strength.

The problem is that comics today have gotten into the habit of basing their characters' physiques on bodybuilders and weightlifters rather than other types of athlete, and thus create false expectations about what strong, athletic people look like.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:40 PM   #118
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I don't care about boobs, but she cerainly doesnt look like she could throw a punch. For that she would need bigger shoulders, bigger arms, bigger legs, aka putting on some weight, putting on some muscle, doing some lifting. Come on. Male actors get send to the weight room of the gym to give us at least an illusion of strength. And with the females it's always just "look thin, look weak". Bah. I want more Starbucks and Gabrielles -.-
But that's simply not what Wonder Woman looks like.

I really wonder where this fixation on muscular women comes from. Does it have something to do with what some people perceive to be "realistic" and all that nonsense?


^Maybe they would also like to explain the mechanics of how any woman can fight with breasts as big as WW and Power Girl. In comics it's pure fantasy. Wonder Woman can be drawn and shown fighting with C-E cups, and people rarely question how she is able to.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:41 PM   #119
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I feel like this thread as turned into a Babe of the Week thread. Ick.
A thread about Wonder Woman will deteriorate into a minute dissection of female flesh worthy of a butcher shop in a span of time inversely proportionate to the body-mass index of whatever actress has been cast or is in talks to play her.

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I really wonder where this fixation on muscular women comes from. Does it have something to do with what some people perceive to be "realistic" and all that nonsense?
Wonder Woman seems to be an object of fetish to a large slice of her fandom. I expect that's a much more common criterion in discussions chewing over what precisely any actress playing her ought to look like (and how much she should be permitted to vary from the appearance of Lynda Carter) than "realism."
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You don't have to worry about Gal getting in fighting shape for the role. Just look at what Antje Traue/ Faora had to go through preparing for Man Of Steel
Ah, that's at least a bit reassuring, thanks

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You seem to have the misconception that putting on muscle means automatically being overly muscular.
Yeah, this. You say "Muscle" and every nerd instantly thinks of bulky bodybuilding monsters which is... just sad.
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