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Old January 5 2014, 05:25 PM   #616
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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Yep, you definitely kept your criticism to breast size when you reentered the thread with this post:
Oh, I took a shot at her, obviously. Just because people who like her casting don't want any opposition doesn't mean I was going to just disagree with one stupid reason she's a bad choice and just leave it at that. I wouldn't want to make even a hint of an impression that I was defending her casting choice, just that any comments about her breast size being "wrong" were ridiculous, and she made a good comment about that herself.

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If Jamie Alexander is the "model" for the perfect Wonder Woman, then Gadot isn't too far off. They're the same height and about 15 pounds differen't in weight. Gadot should be able to gain that easy.
Alexander looks like she could bulk up to WW, and she seems like a decent actress. In Thor she looked like, well, a warrior woman, which is what she was playing. she looked tough. Gadot looks like what she is, a delicate, skinny model who couldn't defeat a chipmunk, much less any real threat.

Anyway, this is getting ridiculous. I think she sucks, a lot of people don't, we're not going to agree or convince each other. We're just kind of arguing in circles at this point.
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Old January 5 2014, 05:35 PM   #617
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

Jamie Alexander should have gotten the part. She didn't and I think that WB made a mistake. That being said, I'll keep an open mind.

If anything, I think the bigger potential problems with this movie are trying to shoehorn so many characters into a single movie.
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Old January 5 2014, 05:38 PM   #618
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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Anyway, this is getting ridiculous. I think she sucks, a lot of people don't, we're not going to agree or convince each other. We're just kind of arguing in circles at this point.
Getting? You passed that long ago. You've been given countless reasons why your assertions were baseless.
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Old January 5 2014, 05:43 PM   #619
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

At this point I admit to skepticism regarding the casting of Gal Gadot. But it has happened often enough that I (and others) have disagreed with a casting choice and was eventually proven wrong.

I didn't think Michael Keaton could cut it as Batman. Wrong.
I was skeptical about Anne Hathaway as Catwoman. Wrong.
I was skeptical of Daniel Craig as 007. Wrong.

I'll wait and see what happens.


Even prejudging a movie can be dicey. I was cynical regarding MoS. What I liked about the film outweighed what I didn't like. It wasn't the film I'd have preferred to see, but it wasn't the disaster I suspected it might be. The Avengers was a lot better than I thought it might be.

ST09, well, I was wrong there too. It was worse than I suspected it would be.

And just for sake of clarity these are strictly my opinions.
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Old January 5 2014, 05:46 PM   #620
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

I doubt Disney/Marvel would grant Jamie Alexander the flexibility in her contract; so she could portray WW in a Warner Bros/DC movie. Alexander was someone they were looking at back in October.

I wonder if TPTB at Disney/ Marvel are kicking themselves for not giving her bigger focus in Thor TDW. Alan Taylor the director said a lot of his planned material was cut out of the movie to make way for more Loki. This included more story for the Dark Elves and a love triangle between Thor, Jane and Sif.
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Old January 5 2014, 05:49 PM   #621
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ST09, well, I was wrong there too. It was worse than I suspected it would be.
Let it go.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:05 PM   #622
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ST09, well, I was wrong there too. It was worse than I suspected it would be.
Let it go.
My remark is not a rant and so it's perfectly valid.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:09 PM   #623
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ST09, well, I was wrong there too. It was worse than I suspected it would be.
Let it go.
My remark is not a rant and so it's perfectly valid.
Let it go. This is not a Trek thread. Let it go. That just makes you seem like a nut. Someone who won't talk about anything else, and won't let anyone else talk about anything else.

Let it go.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:14 PM   #624
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Let it go.
My remark is not a rant and so it's perfectly valid.
Let it go. This is not a Trek thread. Let it go. That just makes you seem like a nut. Someone who won't talk about anything else, and won't let anyone else talk about anything else.

Let it go.
Trek films get referenced here all the time in conjunction with other films and I've made one fucking reference. So I can use any film as a fair example to make a point. If you don't like it then too bad. You let it go. And if my opinion doesn't go with the grain then thats too bad as well.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:14 PM   #625
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I doubt Disney/Marvel would grant Jamie Alexander the flexibility in her contract; so she could portray WW in a Warner Bros/DC movie. Alexander was someone they were looking at back in October.

I wonder if TPTB at Disney/ Marvel are kicking themselves for not giving her bigger focus in Thor TDW. Alan Taylor the director said a lot of his planned material was cut out of the movie to make way for more Loki. This included more story for the Dark Elves and a love triangle between Thor, Jane and Sif.

Studios don't really do contracts like that. Look at Ryan Reynolds. He's played major characters for both DC and Marvel.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:17 PM   #626
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Let it go. This is not a Trek thread. Let it go. That just makes you seem like a nut. Someone who won't talk about anything else, and won't let anyone else talk about anything else.

Let it go.
Trek films get referenced here all the time in conjunction with other films and I've made one fucking reference. So I can use any film as a fair example to make a point. If you don't like it then too bad. You let it go. And if my opinion doesn't go with the grain then thats too bad as well.
Not a Trek thread.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:22 PM   #627
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Anyway, this is getting ridiculous. I think she sucks, a lot of people don't, we're not going to agree or convince each other. We're just kind of arguing in circles at this point.
Getting? You passed that long ago. You've been given countless reasons why your assertions were baseless.
You know, I am pretty much done with the thread, but I have to comment on this. My opinions are no more baseless that yours. We disagree, but me disagreeing with you doesn't make my argument invalid. I think Gadot is a model who should never have started acting, and she's going to play a wimpy looking WW, and probably play her very poorly. Its fine if you don't agree, but that doesn't make me wrong, or right. We can both be right, in our own opinion. I think people who like her are as weird as people think I am for hating her, but thats no reason to try to belittle my opinion. I've never said that people are wrong or jerks for liking her, everything I've said is from my perspective, and its my opinion. I hate her as WW, and that will never change. You can think whatever you want about her, my opinion doesn't change that.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:30 PM   #628
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

The difference is we're willing to wait and see how she turns out. You've already formed an opinion based on lack of knowledge.
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Let it go. This is not a Trek thread. Let it go. That just makes you seem like a nut. Someone who won't talk about anything else, and won't let anyone else talk about anything else.

Let it go.
Trek films get referenced here all the time in conjunction with other films and I've made one fucking reference. So I can use any film as a fair example to make a point. If you don't like it then too bad. You let it go. And if my opinion doesn't go with the grain then thats too bad as well.
Not a Trek thread.
You seem to have overlooked or simply ignored the fact I was also referencing other films. Would you have felt better if I'd included Starship Troopers and Battlefied Earth and Altered States as films worse than I expected?

So unless you have something of relevance to contribute to the discussion at hand then you let it go. My reference was perfectly valid for the point I was making so get the hell off my back.
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Old January 5 2014, 06:49 PM   #630
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The difference is we're willing to wait and see how she turns out. You've already formed an opinion based on lack of knowledge.
I've formed an opinion based off available evidence. She's too small, and her most well known previous role was the complete opposite of WW and poorly acted (although no one could have made that junk work). Outside of joke casting someone, she's one of the worst choices they could have made and still cast someone who looked remotely like WW.

Why is it such a big deal? My opinion doesn't effect your enjoyment of her casting. To me, she's a horrible choice, and almost certainly a horrible actress anyway. She's also in the sequel to an extremely mediocre movie, with a character written by a guy who has written maybe one good female character, ever. She fails in every category, and she has nothing to work with anyway. That's just my opinion, but I didn't just pull it out of thin air. I just arrived at a different conclusion based off what I saw and what I think about superheroes than you did.

This isn't some kind of universal absolute. For me, she could never play a good WW. Joss Whedon could be writing/directing the movie and she'd still be a horrible choice. She's a model who, up until now, only got roles her kind of actress deserves. She's about as appropriate choice for WW as someone like Megan Fox would be, and probably about as skilled an actress.
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