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Old December 6 2013, 07:16 AM   #181
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

I'm not too concerned. I assume the director asked her to gain weight (muscle) for the film, and that she agreed to do so. The fact that she's 5'9" is more important. Wonder Woman should be taller than average. I remember when some fans here were suggesting much shorter actresses for the role of WW. Megan Fox, anyone?
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Old December 6 2013, 07:46 AM   #182
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She's just too scrawny to be WW, and no amount of training will fix that.
Post proof or retract. There have been many examples of actor/actresses bulking up or slimming down to fit roles, some of them in this very thread.

Why not just call this what it is? Your standard preconceived hate for something you haven't seen. You've certainly established it in every thread about an upcoming movie you've ever entered.

For once why don't you wait to see a movie before you condemn it.
Ok, I wasn't even condemning the movie itself in that post, I was condemning a casting choice. I mean, MoS was solidly mediocre, and Goyer has proved to have an inability to write good DC superhero movies. I doubt I'll like SM/Batman, but I'll admit it may reach average if Goyer steps up his game. Still, we're not talking about the overall movie, we're talking about casting. This woman would need to gain 50 lbs of muscle to be the size of Amy Adams She's about -50% body fat at this point, she's officially in the category of "scary" skinny. Even if she didn't need about 6 inches in height, she's not going to "bulk up" to Wonder Woman. She may "bulk up" to Anne Hathaway, if she puts in a lot of effort. I don't know what "evidence" to give outside of just looking at pictures of her. She doesn't have a frame thats going to be putting on enough muscle bulk.

There is also the acting to think about. I saw some F&F clips of her. To be fair, it was awful material, but she wasn't exactly pulling it off very well.

Also, go look up my posts in the X-Men DOFP thread and the avengers 2 thread (and probably the Thor 2 and Winter Soldier threads, although I'm not 100% certain I've posted in them). They're all positive. The worst casting choice Marvel has made in their movie line is Scarlett Johanssen, and while she's a poor Black Widow (too short and very fragile looking) she's still a better choice for her character than Gadot is for WW. I have been wrong about one superhero movie. I thought MoS would be horrible, it turns out it was just mediocre. That's like hitting a single instead of a home run in baseball. I was off a bit, but the general attitude was right. DC will get no benefit of the doubt and an assumption that everything will be horrible for every movie with the names Goyer, Snyder and/or Nolan attached to it, and they deserve it.

That still has nothing to do with Gadot. You'll notice I haven't said anything about Affleck in threads. I'm willing to give him a chance. I actually liked him in Daredevil, and I think he can pull off Batman, and do it much better than Christian Bale. He's also over 6 feet tall and generally has a build that would work with a superhero, or at least be able to get to the right point fairly easily. Gadot has nothing positive going for her, and a lot of huge problems. When the person cast has so many blantant, obvious problems, its not something I'll ignore. Outside of joke casting someone ridiculous, I'd be hard pressed to think of a worse casting choice if you were even half seriously trying to cast WW. Maybe Mila Kunis would be worse and still be at least a partially serious choice, but outside of picking an even more obscure skinny model/actress like Gadot, she's about the bottom of the barrel for choices.

But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:57 AM   #183
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.
The actors did a lot of wire work, sometimes against green screen and sometimes for motion capture. Doing a lot of wire work is physically onerous and requires a high degree of fitness and strength, so there were reasons for the fitness training beyond physical appearance on screen. The fitness training also included character work of how to move and fight in character.
But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
Attractive actresses who can be paid relatively little are a dime a dozen. The studio would obviously look to cast someone they regard as capable of performing the role. It's an important film for them, and there's the potential prospect of Wonder Woman playing a prominent part in more films down the line, including perhaps a solo film.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:03 AM   #184
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Late to the party as I always am, I am now certain this movie will be a total clusterfuck with this casting. Gal Gadot is a beautiful woman but she is nowhere near what WW looks like. She'd have made a perfect Lois Lane or Lana Lang but nothing near WW. I'd have much preferred Bridget Reagan. She has the perfect look for WW. Oh well.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:05 AM   #185
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.
The actors did a lot of wire work, sometimes against green screen and sometimes for motion capture. Doing a lot of wire work is physically onerous and requires a high degree of fitness and strength, so there were reasons for the fitness training beyond physical appearance on screen. The fitness training also included character work of how to move and fight in character.

That makes sense, and I wasn't aware of that. I still don't know how much wire work faora did (wasn't everything everyone did outside of maybe a little bit of Cavil's flying scenes fully CG?) but I can see why someone would need to be in good shape for that stuff. If Gadot's going to be in any fight scenes or scenes with wirework, I can see gadot getting that training, and maybe it will help her for that. It won't make her WW sized by any means, and neither will any training really (and nothing outside of gigantic shoes will giver her height) but she will probably get a little bit of training for physical stuff. So, she'll be a skeletal woman who can do wire work.

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But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
Attractive actresses who can be paid relatively little are a dime a dozen. The studio would obviously look to cast someone they regard as capable of performing the role. It's an important film for them, and there's the potential prospect of Wonder Woman playing a prominent part in more films down the line, including perhaps a solo film.
The woman who, as far as I can tell, was a background character in the fairly lame F&F movies is far from an important actress. The studio doesn't care about its casting with her, because they don't care about WW. They hired a small, almost unbelievably skinny, borderline extra from bad car movies to play the most prominent superheroine in the world. That's not the casting of a studio that cares. They'll never do a WW movie anyway, so she'll never personally make them money. She's cheap, somewhat attractive, and will almost certainly always be available.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:07 AM   #186
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This is spooky.

She's on the White Collar I am half way through watching and I just couldn't summon the strength to google her.

Thank you for googling her for me.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:28 AM   #187
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Gal Gadot is a beautiful woman but she is nowhere near what WW looks like. She'd have made a perfect Lois Lane or Lana Lang but nothing near WW. I'd have much preferred Bridget Reagan. She has the perfect look for WW. Oh well.
Hehe don't we all love hyperbole? "Nothing near", really? Your perfect actress looks quite similar to Gal Gadot.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:34 AM   #188
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Late to the party as I always am, I am now certain this movie will be a total clusterfuck with this casting. Gal Gadot is a beautiful woman but she is nowhere near what WW looks like. She'd have made a perfect Lois Lane or Lana Lang but nothing near WW. I'd have much preferred Bridget Reagan. She has the perfect look for WW. Oh well.
Looks a bit pale and ginger to be Wonder Woman.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:40 AM   #189
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The woman who, as far as I can tell, was a background character in the fairly lame F&F movies is far from an important actress.
I didn't say she's an important actress. I said they would of course have regard to whether they think she can play the part.
The studio doesn't care about its casting with her, because they don't care about WW.
They care about the casting of every part in a film this big. Just because you disagree with a casting choice doesn't mean it was a throwaway for the studio. That's juvenile, narcissistic thinking.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:40 AM   #190
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

Hey! What you got against gingers!?!?!


Also: "skeletal?" "Ubelievably skinny?" Um, whut?
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Old December 6 2013, 08:45 AM   #191
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Hey! What you got against gingers!?!?!
Nothing, but we must shoot down any actress mentioned for the part. It's expected.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:56 AM   #192
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Bridget had black hair in Seeker.

Besides, Wonder Woman was a ginger for a couple years there in the 90s.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=won...TToYGQCA&gbv=2
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Old December 6 2013, 09:06 AM   #193
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Bridget had black hair in Seeker.

Besides, Wonder Woman was a ginger for a couple years there in the 90s.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=won...TToYGQCA&gbv=2
Orana and Artemis are gingers.
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Bridget had black hair in Seeker.
Nope if she doesn't look like an ancient greek statue, she's not Wonder Woman.



Besides, Wonder Woman was a ginger for a couple years there in the 90s.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=won...TToYGQCA&gbv=2
But not Diana.
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Late to the party as I always am, I am now certain this movie will be a total clusterfuck with this casting. Gal Gadot is a beautiful woman but she is nowhere near what WW looks like. She'd have made a perfect Lois Lane or Lana Lang but nothing near WW. I'd have much preferred Bridget Regan. She has the perfect look for WW. Oh well.
I like Bridget Regan too. Saw her on Person of Interest. She oughta be in features.
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