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Old December 6 2013, 05:48 AM   #166
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Re: Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman In ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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Old December 6 2013, 05:57 AM   #167
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I guess it all depends on which interpretation they will base her character on. The current continuity has her being the daughter of Zeus, so it's no mystery where she gets her strength.
yeah, she's either the daughter of a God or statue brought to life and given godlike powers. Her build is irrelevant to her strength.

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Supposedly, according to some tellings of the story, her strength come from her magic girdle.

As long as she has that girdle, no matter how strong she appears to look, this character can still juggle firetrucks.

And really what does a woman with a "perfect figure" need with a girdle anyways?
Stealing Hippolyta's girdle was one of Heracles' labors. Girdle in that context is just a belt. Never heard of Wonder Woman's girdle as the source of her strength.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:07 AM   #168
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Still, he is 100% right.
He might be right if the post had been directed towards other parties. He's not right about me, since my post had nothing behind it resembling the malicious intent that he ascribed to it.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:19 AM   #169
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Regardless of what the actress looks like (I think she'll put on some weight and she'll be fine), I am ridiculously excited about this. The Big Three are coming to the big screen and it makes me feel like a kid again. I think it's just possible that DC/WB are finally getting their shit together in the face of Marvel's overwhelming succes, and it's about time. I think it's smart of them not to follow Marvel's exact blueprint as well. They need to catch up, and getting their three biggest names into a movie posthaste seems like a good way to do it.

Anyone think it's possible they might be pulling a bait-and-switch here? Like maybe at the next Comicon they'll go "Oh, by the way, Green Lantern and Flash are in this movie, too and it's now called 'Justice League'"? Just speculation, but it does seem that this is a lot bigger than a Man Of Steel sequel.
Yeah as a huge fan of MOS, I have to admit my enthusiasm dipped quite a bit with the announcement of Affleck (not because I'm an Affleck hater, but just because he seemed far from the ideal choice), but now the idea of actually getting to see the Big Three on the big screen together is suddenly making me much more excited again.

Although it does still seem far too early to introduce even more superheroes to this world than those. I'd hate for the MOS sequel to be so packed with costumed heroes and supervillains that it ceases to feel like the grounded, down-to-earth world of the first movie and becomes just another insulated, Avengers-style comic book world. Where all the characters seemingly do is spend their time interacting or fighting with other superheroes.

I really hope that doesn't happen here. At least not until a proper JL film where that thing is kind of expected.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:20 AM   #170
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Let's say you're a Marvel Studios exec (Kevin Feige or whoever). Does the news about Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman make a difference? Do you now want Marvel to get their own A-list superheroine (whoever that might be) on film? Or is all of this really not a big deal?
Not any kind of deal.

Marvel has the momentum and the big franchise already. DC's got Batman, Batman with superpowers (Man of Steel) and someone playing Wonder Woman who looks like she gets winded easily shopping in Neiman Marcus.

Marvel is pointing and laughing and maintaining their already winning plan.
Winded? The woman was a soldier and sports trainer, why would she get winded? Long distance runners are pretty thin. They're noted for their endurance.
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Old December 6 2013, 06:50 AM   #171
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.

Gadot could train for years and still be too small. She's a model, and she's there for eye candy. If she's a good actress that will just be a bonus to the studio. Training or not, she's always going to look like a stiff breeze could knock her senseless. She's just too scrawny to be WW, and no amount of training will fix that.

After seeing some clips of her, I'm not quite sure of her ability to act either, but that could still go either way. Regardless, this casting just sucks, and even if she can act, she could never be a good WW. Its like if they had gone insane and cast Seth Green as Superman. He could train for a decade, he'd still not work. Doesn't mean he's a bad actor, it just means there is no training or trick photography that could make him convincing in the role, and I think Gadot is in the same situation.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:08 AM   #172
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.

Gadot could train for years and still be too small. She's a model, and she's there for eye candy. If she's a good actress that will just be a bonus to the studio. Training or not, she's always going to look like a stiff breeze could knock her senseless. She's just too scrawny to be WW, and no amount of training will fix that.

After seeing some clips of her, I'm not quite sure of her ability to act either, but that could still go either way. Regardless, this casting just sucks, and even if she can act, she could never be a good WW. Its like if they had gone insane and cast Seth Green as Superman. He could train for a decade, he'd still not work. Doesn't mean he's a bad actor, it just means there is no training or trick photography that could make him convincing in the role, and I think Gadot is in the same situation.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:11 AM   #173
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I hope Snyder shoots this film in color, the first one was so gray...
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Old December 6 2013, 07:13 AM   #174
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She's just too scrawny to be WW, and no amount of training will fix that.
Post proof or retract. There have been many examples of actor/actresses bulking up or slimming down to fit roles, some of them in this very thread.

Why not just call this what it is? Your standard preconceived hate for something you haven't seen. You've certainly established it in every thread about an upcoming movie you've ever entered.

For once why don't you wait to see a movie before you condemn it.
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Old December 6 2013, 07:16 AM   #175
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I'm not too concerned. I assume the director asked her to gain weight (muscle) for the film, and that she agreed to do so. The fact that she's 5'9" is more important. Wonder Woman should be taller than average. I remember when some fans here were suggesting much shorter actresses for the role of WW. Megan Fox, anyone?
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Old December 6 2013, 07:46 AM   #176
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She's just too scrawny to be WW, and no amount of training will fix that.
Post proof or retract. There have been many examples of actor/actresses bulking up or slimming down to fit roles, some of them in this very thread.

Why not just call this what it is? Your standard preconceived hate for something you haven't seen. You've certainly established it in every thread about an upcoming movie you've ever entered.

For once why don't you wait to see a movie before you condemn it.
Ok, I wasn't even condemning the movie itself in that post, I was condemning a casting choice. I mean, MoS was solidly mediocre, and Goyer has proved to have an inability to write good DC superhero movies. I doubt I'll like SM/Batman, but I'll admit it may reach average if Goyer steps up his game. Still, we're not talking about the overall movie, we're talking about casting. This woman would need to gain 50 lbs of muscle to be the size of Amy Adams She's about -50% body fat at this point, she's officially in the category of "scary" skinny. Even if she didn't need about 6 inches in height, she's not going to "bulk up" to Wonder Woman. She may "bulk up" to Anne Hathaway, if she puts in a lot of effort. I don't know what "evidence" to give outside of just looking at pictures of her. She doesn't have a frame thats going to be putting on enough muscle bulk.

There is also the acting to think about. I saw some F&F clips of her. To be fair, it was awful material, but she wasn't exactly pulling it off very well.

Also, go look up my posts in the X-Men DOFP thread and the avengers 2 thread (and probably the Thor 2 and Winter Soldier threads, although I'm not 100% certain I've posted in them). They're all positive. The worst casting choice Marvel has made in their movie line is Scarlett Johanssen, and while she's a poor Black Widow (too short and very fragile looking) she's still a better choice for her character than Gadot is for WW. I have been wrong about one superhero movie. I thought MoS would be horrible, it turns out it was just mediocre. That's like hitting a single instead of a home run in baseball. I was off a bit, but the general attitude was right. DC will get no benefit of the doubt and an assumption that everything will be horrible for every movie with the names Goyer, Snyder and/or Nolan attached to it, and they deserve it.

That still has nothing to do with Gadot. You'll notice I haven't said anything about Affleck in threads. I'm willing to give him a chance. I actually liked him in Daredevil, and I think he can pull off Batman, and do it much better than Christian Bale. He's also over 6 feet tall and generally has a build that would work with a superhero, or at least be able to get to the right point fairly easily. Gadot has nothing positive going for her, and a lot of huge problems. When the person cast has so many blantant, obvious problems, its not something I'll ignore. Outside of joke casting someone ridiculous, I'd be hard pressed to think of a worse casting choice if you were even half seriously trying to cast WW. Maybe Mila Kunis would be worse and still be at least a partially serious choice, but outside of picking an even more obscure skinny model/actress like Gadot, she's about the bottom of the barrel for choices.

But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.
The actors did a lot of wire work, sometimes against green screen and sometimes for motion capture. Doing a lot of wire work is physically onerous and requires a high degree of fitness and strength, so there were reasons for the fitness training beyond physical appearance on screen. The fitness training also included character work of how to move and fight in character.
But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
Attractive actresses who can be paid relatively little are a dime a dozen. The studio would obviously look to cast someone they regard as capable of performing the role. It's an important film for them, and there's the potential prospect of Wonder Woman playing a prominent part in more films down the line, including perhaps a solo film.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:03 AM   #178
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Late to the party as I always am, I am now certain this movie will be a total clusterfuck with this casting. Gal Gadot is a beautiful woman but she is nowhere near what WW looks like. She'd have made a perfect Lois Lane or Lana Lang but nothing near WW. I'd have much preferred Bridget Reagan. She has the perfect look for WW. Oh well.
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I keep hearing people say Faora's actress trained for the part. I've seen sources that confirm that, but it seemed like a waste of time for her. She wore a bulky suit for 99% of her screen time, and as far as I could tell she was no more fit than Lois. If she was training she probably was, but its not like you could tell in the suit, and its not like she did any partcularly athletic stunts, it was all CG stuff.
The actors did a lot of wire work, sometimes against green screen and sometimes for motion capture. Doing a lot of wire work is physically onerous and requires a high degree of fitness and strength, so there were reasons for the fitness training beyond physical appearance on screen. The fitness training also included character work of how to move and fight in character.

That makes sense, and I wasn't aware of that. I still don't know how much wire work faora did (wasn't everything everyone did outside of maybe a little bit of Cavil's flying scenes fully CG?) but I can see why someone would need to be in good shape for that stuff. If Gadot's going to be in any fight scenes or scenes with wirework, I can see gadot getting that training, and maybe it will help her for that. It won't make her WW sized by any means, and neither will any training really (and nothing outside of gigantic shoes will giver her height) but she will probably get a little bit of training for physical stuff. So, she'll be a skeletal woman who can do wire work.

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But, again, she's eye candy and they will probably have to pay her literally 1% of what Affleck and Cavil will be getting, so she's cheap and somewhat attractive, which is all the studio cares about.
Attractive actresses who can be paid relatively little are a dime a dozen. The studio would obviously look to cast someone they regard as capable of performing the role. It's an important film for them, and there's the potential prospect of Wonder Woman playing a prominent part in more films down the line, including perhaps a solo film.
The woman who, as far as I can tell, was a background character in the fairly lame F&F movies is far from an important actress. The studio doesn't care about its casting with her, because they don't care about WW. They hired a small, almost unbelievably skinny, borderline extra from bad car movies to play the most prominent superheroine in the world. That's not the casting of a studio that cares. They'll never do a WW movie anyway, so she'll never personally make them money. She's cheap, somewhat attractive, and will almost certainly always be available.
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Old December 6 2013, 08:07 AM   #180
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This is spooky.

She's on the White Collar I am half way through watching and I just couldn't summon the strength to google her.

Thank you for googling her for me.
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