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Old August 5 2014, 05:19 AM   #781
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In Germany Tele5 is showing VOY and TNG in HD. ZDF_neo is showing TOS in SD but from the HD masters. Both Free-TV channels. ENT and the movies are on Pay-TV. DS9 is currently not showing (but was on Tele5, like ENT).
Why would ZDFneo show TOS in SD? It's an HD channel, so I would assume that it's showing TOS in HD!

I wouldn't be so sure about TELE 5, though ... they are only HD through Pay TV, the free version is SD.
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Old August 5 2014, 01:43 PM   #782
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And that's why Trek's future is on Netflix or something like that.
I'm simply not sure Star Trek has a future on TV.
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Old August 5 2014, 02:08 PM   #783
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ENT and the movies are on Pay-TV.
TNG HD and ENT HD are both currently available on SyFy, i.e. pay-TV.
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Old August 5 2014, 11:56 PM   #784
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Voyager and Deep Space Nine last aired in the middle of the night on TNN (The Nashville Network, later The National Network). When the network reformatted to the male oriented Spike TV, they kept the shows for a while. They were on until about 2006.
Actually 2009 and 2010, respectively -- according to Memory Alpha. Turns out they dropped TNG about a year before DS9:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spike
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Old August 6 2014, 05:19 AM   #785
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I stand corrected. Good Googlin'.
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Old August 6 2014, 12:39 PM   #786
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In Germany Tele5 is showing VOY and TNG in HD. ZDF_neo is showing TOS in SD but from the HD masters. Both Free-TV channels. ENT and the movies are on Pay-TV. DS9 is currently not showing (but was on Tele5, like ENT).
Why would ZDFneo show TOS in SD? It's an HD channel, so I would assume that it's showing TOS in HD!

I wouldn't be so sure about TELE 5, though ... they are only HD through Pay TV, the free version is SD.
Actually it's like this: ZDFneoHD is not ready to show real native HD yet, although the free HD version of the channel is up for quite some time now (more than 2 years). Yes, they use the TOS-HD-masters, but nevertheless air just upscaled SD signal, and noone there knows or wants to say when they're going to switch to real HD.

Tele5 though does real HD through it's HD channel, which is Pay-TV, but at least it shows TNG in real HD and it looks great!
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Old August 6 2014, 02:25 PM   #787
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Actually it's like this: ZDFneoHD is not ready to show real native HD yet, although the free HD version of the channel is up for quite some time now (more than 2 years). Yes, they use the TOS-HD-masters, but nevertheless air just upscaled SD signal, and noone there knows or wants to say when they're going to switch to real HD.
ZDFneo is 720p, which is some kind of HD ... what makes you think they are upscaling from SD instead of downscaling from 1080p?
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what makes you think they are upscaling from SD instead of downscaling from 1080p?
The 720p signal is actually just the original SD (576i) signal run through an upconverter as they don't have actual HD broadcasting capability yet.
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Old August 6 2014, 02:59 PM   #789
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The 720p signal is actually just the original SD (576i) signal run through an upconverter as they don't have actual HD broadcasting capability yet.
Source? And what about the other free 720p channels?
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Old August 6 2014, 04:36 PM   #790
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And that's why Trek's future is on Netflix or something like that.
I'm simply not sure Star Trek has a future on TV.
The major studios are still seeing Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and so on as "lower tier" services and therefore steering their big name properties away from them.

When they wise up like the music industry has with Spotify (they would rather have some money than pretend they can get back to peak sales by magic) I wouldn't be surprised if Trek re-appears as a Netflix or amazon original.

It would be a step-up in spending from their work to date, due to hte SFX, but I'd never say never.
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Old August 6 2014, 07:02 PM   #791
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The 720p signal is actually just the original SD (576i) signal run through an upconverter as they don't have actual HD broadcasting capability yet.
Source? And what about the other free 720p channels?
If i run a DVD with my BD-Player in 720p-mode, it has nothing to do with actual HD, even though the display shows 720p!

The source is the network itself (just ask them) or any of the countless german digital tv boards.
Same goes for ALL the other ZDF subchannels, non of those are capable of HD at the moment.
Same goes for ARD subchannels HR-HD and BR-HD as well.
That was the reason i waited so long with my TOS-recording, because all the reruns so far had nothing to do with HD.
But i hope they do rerun the show again, once they've switched to real HD some day.
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Old August 7 2014, 12:18 AM   #792
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"There are currently no plans" means only just that, that the studio has yet to officially announce any decision. There's nothing more to read into it either way.
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Old August 7 2014, 03:24 AM   #793
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"There are currently no plans" means only just that, that the studio has yet to officially announce any decision. There's nothing more to read into it either way.
It feels like we have been waiting forever on solid news
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Old August 7 2014, 07:02 AM   #794
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If i run a DVD with my BD-Player in 720p-mode, it has nothing to do with actual HD, even though the display shows 720p!

The source is the network itself (just ask them) or any of the countless german digital tv boards.
Same goes for ALL the other ZDF subchannels, non of those are capable of HD at the moment.
Same goes for ARD subchannels HR-HD and BR-HD as well.
That was the reason i waited so long with my TOS-recording, because all the reruns so far had nothing to do with HD.
But i hope they do rerun the show again, once they've switched to real HD some day.
720p is HD ... it's not FULL HD, but it's no SD either. And 720p looks MUCH better than SD! There are some stations that are broadcasting in 1080i, but the difference between 720p and 1080i stations is almost non existant. Some people even say that 720p TV looks better than 1080i TV.

And why would they upconvert SD to HD instead of downconverting Full HD to HD? What would be the point? Are you suggesting that they upconverted the picture during the Football World Cup from SD to HD, even though everything was filmed in Full HD? If so, they did a damn fine job there! And what about in-house productions which were shot in Full HD?
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Old August 7 2014, 11:03 AM   #795
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"There are currently no plans" means only just that, that the studio has yet to officially announce any decision. There's nothing more to read into it either way.
It feels like we have been waiting forever on solid news
We can hope - Birthright on the TNG S6 Blus is pretty tantalising.

God those CGI battles in S5-7 will take some recreating though!
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