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Old September 6 2013, 09:53 PM   #1
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Enterprise The Movie

Ive often wondered what wouldve happened had Enterprise been a TNG style success and seen out its 7 years on tv, so heres a fun pitch for an alternate Trek film that couldve come out summer 2009 (the year after the tv show wouldve ended)- as with ST09 it would’ve been 7 years since Nemesis. any similarity to ST09 is purely coincidental

Following its successful 10 year mission, the refitted NX01 is relaunched to confront a new threat to the newly formed UFPs outer defenses where they discover an advanced ship of unknown design has destroyed several federation ships and outposts. As they engage they realise they are seriously outmatched and flee but are pursued, take on heavy damage and are about to be destroyed when they are suddenly engulfed by a violently unstable anomaly - emerging in the late 24th century. There they find a future where the federation is in a desperate all out war with an advanced romulan empire led by a crazed revenge driven warlord. With the help of a future Enterprise captain, Archer and his crew discover the ship which attacked them was from an unknown part of the galaxy and had the ability to create unstable quantum holes in space. Found by Romulans, they commandeered it back to the mid 22nd century to destroy the federation in its infancy, but were destroyed by the unstable anomaly they created when the NX01 unwittingly passed through and was thrown into the future. However Romulan ships of that period recovered debris/telemetry from the ship which was enough to slowly advance their empire to the point where they are imminently about to destroy the federation in the 24th century...

The crews of both Enterprises must work together along with a legendary vulcan former starfleet officer in order to save the future and the past..

Paramount Pictures presents..A Rick Berman Production…..

‘Star Trek Futures Past’ (no colon)

starring Scott Bakula, John Billingsley, Jolene Blalock, Steven Culp, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Stephen Lang, Jeri Ryan, Brent Spiner, Conner Trinneer, with Patrick Stewart, and Leonard Nimoy

Written by Manny Coto, Mike Sussman, and Nicholas Meyer
Directed by Jonathan Frakes

Tagline - Two Crews. One Destiny
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Old September 6 2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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Re: Enterprise The Movie

That's the same story as TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise, only reworked.
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Old September 6 2013, 10:30 PM   #3
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yes

IMDB style Trivia for the ST Enterprise movie (2009)

-titled ‘Star Trek Enterprise’ (no colon) in some countries

-the tag line ‘Two Crews. One Destiny’ is a riff on the Generations tagline ‘Two Captains. One Destiny - similar to the way Insurrection adapted TUCs tagline

-a sequel to Enterprise and Nemesis

-third PG13 rated Star Trek film

-James Horners third Star Trek score

-Production Designer Herman Zimmerman’s seventh Star Trek feature

-Jonathan Frakes third time directing a Star Trek film.

-Nicholas Meyer was offered the chance to direct but turned it down, however he later agreed to co-write the film.

-Enterprise was close to cancellation by the forth season in 2005 due to low ratings, however massive fan support convinced Paramount to commission a fifth season which has been hailed as one of Star Treks best, leading to a further two critically acclaimed seasons. This led to the decision to revitalise the movie series with the Enterprise crew

-Plans for an eleventh Star Trek feature were halted after the box office failure of Star Trek Nemesis. However elements of a proposed ‘crossover’ film featuring several members of each series, as well as a prequel trilogy entitled ‘Star Trek: The Beginning’ were worked into this film.

-William Shatner was approached to cameo as Captain Kirk in a holodeck exposition scene but wanted a non holodeck Kirk role central to the action like Spocks - as a result the scene was discarded and the dialogue was added to Spocks character. Shatner had guest starred in the fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise as a vengeful mirror universe Kirk.

-Leonard Nimoy initially declined to return as Spock. He agreed after Nicholas Meyer re-wrote elements of the script to make Spocks part more essential to the plot.

-Those considered for the role of Nero included Russell Crowe and Eric Bana, before Stephen Lang was cast.

-inspired by Yesterdays Enterprise (Enterprise from the past encountering changed future, federation losing the war), and First Contact (villiain attempting to destroy the federation in the past)

-Plans for a ‘Yesterdays Enterprise’ style crossover film featuring crews of two Enterprises go back to 1994s Star Trek Generations but the idea was discarded when it was established it would be too expensive.

-the NX01 emerging in the 23rd Century and teaming up with the remaining crew of the NCC 1701A was considered then discarded in favour of the TNG crew.

-the Enterprise E emerging in the 22nd Century was considered then dropped for the NX01 in the 24th century.

-Rumours surfaced in 2007 of an original series prequel film charting the early years of Kirk and Spock being developed. JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman were rumoured to be involved. However soon after it was revealed Paramount had hired Jonathon Frakes to direct a movie with the Star Trek Enterprise cast.

-22nd century scenes set - 2162. 24th Century scenes set - 2387

-Budget = $100m.

-Box Office - $45m opening wkend. $125m US. $75m foreign = $200m ww

-Despite several rumours, there are no plans for a sequel as yet.

-Main characters = Capt Archer, Cmdr Tpol, Cmdr Tucker, Capt Picard, Cmdr Data (not B4 as is altered timeline), Nero (S Lang - crazed revenge driven Romulan warlord whose son was on board the destroyed timeship)
-Extended cameos = Cmdr Madden (Ent E 1st Officer - as in Nemesis deleted end scene), Capt Riker (USS Titan - in altered timeline was promoted to Captain long before end of Nemesis - helps the Enterprises out Sulu style), Cmdr Hansen (Titan 1st Officer - was never borgified into 7of9), Ambassador Spock (as in Unification trying stop the federation/romulan war)
-minor roles - all the rest in their usual positions/ranks (Geordi, Dr Crusher, Troi, Hoshi, Malcolm, phlox etc etc)


Spoilers (The trivia items below may give away important plot points):

-Enterprise crew deaths - Hoshi, Mayweather (opening attack), Madden (half way - replaced by Data as 1st Officer), Trip (end sacrifice), the entire Ent E crew (getting the NX01 back to the past)

-During Nero and Archers fight scene Nero states ‘I Know your face from earths history….’ Archers response of ‘I find that difficult to believe’ is intended to be a reference to his Quantum Leap character Samuel Beckett

-During the final battle the USS Voyager is seen to be destroyed

-Ships present during the final battle include the USS Excelsior, Reliant and all previous Enterprises.

-When Picard and Archer enter Spocks chambers, a photo of Kirk (William Shatner) can be seen on the desk.

-Near the end of the movie, Khan (Richardo Montalban) is briefly seen in a cryogenic stasis pod as Archer searches the gigantic cargo hold of Nero’s advanced Romulan battleship. (suggesting at some point between 2162 and 2387 in the changed timeline the romulans located the Botany Bay). The ILM effects team scanned Richardo Montalbans face from the 1967 episode Space Seed and applied the result to a stunt double.

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Old September 6 2013, 11:12 PM   #4
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Wow, were these backup plans in case Enterprise and Nemesis somehow didn't kill off the prime franchise?
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Old September 7 2013, 12:16 AM   #5
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Re: Enterprise The Movie

Khan 2.0 wrote: View Post
yes

IMDB style Trivia for the ST Enterprise movie (2009)

-titled ‘Star Trek Enterprise’ (no colon) in some countries

-the tag line ‘Two Crews. One Destiny’ is a riff on the Generations tagline ‘Two Captains. One Destiny - similar to the way Insurrection adapted TUCs tagline

-a sequel to Enterprise and Nemesis

-third PG13 rated Star Trek film

-James Horners third Star Trek score

-Production Designer Herman Zimmerman’s seventh Star Trek feature

-Jonathan Frakes third time directing a Star Trek film.

-Nicholas Meyer was offered the chance to direct but turned it down, however he later agreed to co-write the film.

-Enterprise was close to cancellation by the forth season in 2005 due to low ratings, however massive fan support convinced Paramount to commission a fifth season which has been hailed as one of Star Treks best, leading to a further two critically acclaimed seasons. This led to the decision to revitalise the movie series with the Enterprise crew

-Plans for an eleventh Star Trek feature were halted after the box office failure of Star Trek Nemesis. However elements of a proposed ‘crossover’ film featuring several members of each series, as well as a prequel trilogy entitled ‘Star Trek: The Beginning’ were worked into this film.

-William Shatner was approached to cameo as Captain Kirk in a holodeck exposition scene but wanted a non holodeck Kirk role central to the action like Spocks - as a result the scene was discarded and the dialogue was added to Spocks character. Shatner had guest starred in the fifth season of Star Trek: Enterprise as a vengeful mirror universe Kirk.

-Leonard Nimoy initially declined to return as Spock. He agreed after Nicholas Meyer re-wrote elements of the script to make Spocks part more essential to the plot.

-Those considered for the role of Nero included Russell Crowe and Eric Bana, before Stephen Lang was cast.

-inspired by Yesterdays Enterprise (Enterprise from the past encountering changed future, federation losing the war), and First Contact (villiain attempting to destroy the federation in the past)

-Plans for a ‘Yesterdays Enterprise’ style crossover film featuring crews of two Enterprises go back to 1994s Star Trek Generations but the idea was discarded when it was established it would be too expensive.

-the NX01 emerging in the 23rd Century and teaming up with the remaining crew of the NCC 1701A was considered then discarded in favour of the TNG crew.

-the Enterprise E emerging in the 22nd Century was considered then dropped for the NX01 in the 24th century.

-Rumours surfaced in 2007 of an original series prequel film charting the early years of Kirk and Spock being developed. JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman were rumoured to be involved. However soon after it was revealed Paramount had hired Jonathon Frakes to direct a movie with the Star Trek Enterprise cast.

-22nd century scenes set - 2162. 24th Century scenes set - 2387

-Budget = $100m.

-Box Office - $45m opening wkend. $125m US. $75m foreign = $200m ww

-Despite several rumours, there are no plans for a sequel as yet.

-Main characters = Capt Archer, Cmdr Tpol, Cmdr Tucker, Capt Picard, Cmdr Data (not B4 as is altered timeline), Nero (S Lang - crazed revenge driven Romulan warlord whose son was on board the destroyed timeship)
-Extended cameos = Cmdr Madden (Ent E 1st Officer - as in Nemesis deleted end scene), Capt Riker (USS Titan - in altered timeline was promoted to Captain long before end of Nemesis - helps the Enterprises out Sulu style), Cmdr Hansen (Titan 1st Officer - was never borgified into 7of9), Ambassador Spock (as in Unification trying stop the federation/romulan war)
-minor roles - all the rest in their usual positions/ranks (Geordi, Dr Crusher, Troi, Hoshi, Malcolm, phlox etc etc)


Spoilers (The trivia items below may give away important plot points):

-Enterprise crew deaths - Hoshi, Mayweather (opening attack), Madden (half way - replaced by Data as 1st Officer), Trip (end sacrifice), the entire Ent E crew (getting the NX01 back to the past)

-During Nero and Archers fight scene Nero states ‘I Know your face from earths history….’ Archers response of ‘I find that difficult to believe’ is intended to be a reference to his Quantum Leap character Samuel Beckett

-During the final battle the USS Voyager is seen to be destroyed

-Ships present during the final battle include the USS Excelsior, Reliant and all previous Enterprises.

-When Picard and Archer enter Spocks chambers, a photo of Kirk (William Shatner) can be seen on the desk.

-Near the end of the movie, Khan (Richardo Montalban) is briefly seen in a cryogenic stasis pod as Archer searches the gigantic cargo hold of Nero’s advanced Romulan battleship. (suggesting at some point between 2162 and 2387 in the changed timeline the romulans located the Botany Bay). The ILM effects team scanned Richardo Montalbans face from the 1967 episode Space Seed and applied the result to a stunt double.

You missed one last trivia tidbit!

"Difficulties arose between the crew and director Jonathan Frakes due to his toilet constantly backing up in his trailor during primary filming..."

A recycled plot jam packed with tired and overused charactors with a predictable ending and pointless special effects, this movie would totally go over!

Why don't they make a Star Trek movie about a black lesbian couple? That would be interesting!
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Old September 14 2013, 11:21 AM   #6
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Old September 18 2013, 10:01 PM   #7
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i think ENT wouldve worked quite well on the big screen - the big budget making the ship even more realistic, that particular era with plenty nods to TOS - all the cool foreshadowing, Scott Bakula as Archer, possible interaction with the TNG crew like the way TNG interacted with TOS for their 1st film. (TNG would’ve been off screens for 7 years so would’ve been abit of an event - esp something different like an alt universe TNG crew) and like the way everyone kind of thought Generations would do a Yesterdays Enterprise. It would have been almost 20 years since Yesterdays Ent and the YE two crews thing hadn’t been done on the big screen yet (like the way elements of certain episodes have been redone as movies - TMP with Changeling/Doomsday Machine/Immunity Syndrome, TVH - Tomorrow is Yesterday/Assignment Earth/City on the Edge, TFF - Way to Eden/Who Mourns Adonis, & even FC - BOBW & ST09 - YE).

the cast mustve been thinking a movie would be a strong possiblity in the early days as there was no way a DS9 or VOY film would go ahead, and TNG were about to have their final film (and even if Nemesis wasnt to be TNGs final film it would be unlilely theyd be still doing the films by the time ENT finished its run on tv), so there mustve been the feeling that ENT would more than likely be the next crew on the big screen at the end of the 7 years in a film possibly like the one described above. hearing the show wasnt doing too well and then was going to be cancelled early mustve been unbelivable, especially when the likes of Stargate was still going...and just when ENT had found its feet like TNGs 3rd season....

even now its still pretty shocking ....i know it probably worked out for the best as otherwise we wouldnt have had the return of the original characters with ST09/STID but even so i cant help imagining what an ENT movie wouldve been like
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Old September 21 2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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I think if it were to succeed, you'd not make it "A Rick Berman" production. You would make it "A Manny Coto Production" . If I recall, the excellent 4th season, Manny had the production duties. - I might be wrong though, its been years since I read about it.
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Berman was still in charge, but--as Roddenberry had done during the first season of TNG--stepped back into a more supervisory role with someone else (Coto) handling the day-to-day running of ENT.

Although Berman was said to be connected with the aborted Star Trek: The Beginning movie, it was really a very tangible connection, IIRC. I don't think it would have been a Berman production, IMO.
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maybe wed be anticipating Enterprise III this summer (sequel couldve been summer 2011)
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This is why fans shouldn't run the franchise.
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Wow, were these backup plans in case Enterprise and Nemesis somehow didn't kill off the prime franchise?
I still disagree that Nemesis and Enterprise "killed" anything off. Yes, I agree both were not as successful as previous incarnations, but I've seen too many other Hollywood franchises that kept going anyway, with a few finally churning out a hit. Fast and the Furious comes to mind. The studio killed Trek, it's that simple.

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Berman was still in charge, but--as Roddenberry had done during the first season of TNG--stepped back into a more supervisory role with someone else (Coto) handling the day-to-day running of ENT.

Although Berman was said to be connected with the aborted Star Trek: The Beginning movie, it was really a very tangible connection, IIRC. I don't think it would have been a Berman production, IMO.
I'd wager Berman would have still be a producer, but personally feel that had the studio not killed off Star Trek and then brought it back under JJ Abrams, Berman ultimately would have retired and picked Manny Coto to be his successor the same way Gene Roddenberry picked Rick to be his.

I realize the odds of this happening are not so great, but I'm still holding out some hope that the "Enterprise on NetFlix" campaign leads to a new series of tv style films or a mini series to better wrap Enterprise up.
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Old January 17 2014, 08:09 PM   #13
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At best, we might see a special two hour Enterprise tv-movie. nu-Trek ruined any chance of a film happening as happened with TOS and TNG. I'm sure that fans would still like to see a DS9 or Voyager tv-movie.

Perhaps these would be better too since the crew is already used to making this medium, sets might still be around to recycle, techs with experience available to do one more show.

If you honestly look back at the quality of the series versus translation on film and then took cost into account, then the series episodes exceed the film experience almost every time.

In tv history, it's not unusual to come back and make such a tv movie and for dedicated fans and other to watch it.

Sometimes less is more. The worst thing is making one more season to squeeze the last drops out from the crew and writers. In a way, maybe four seasons should be the upper limit to most series regardless.
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The sets are gone. All of that stuff was sold at the That's a Wrap sale/auction and afterwards.
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Aside from being a knock off of "Yesterday's Enterprise", why is Seven First Officer? Why not have a more interesting character, either from the series or original, someone who didn't rely on catsuits to hog screen time.
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