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Old December 4 2013, 06:18 PM   #31
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Re: Non-Trek - A Present for Mom

hair over ears looks more natural.
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Old December 4 2013, 09:45 PM   #32
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Yeah, I'm probably going to stay with the ears mostly covered. Gotta say, I don't think I've paid this much attention to women's hair styles in my entire life.
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Old December 4 2013, 10:41 PM   #33
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Re: Non-Trek - A Present for Mom

I gotta say, I like the ears covered also. To my eye, having the ears revealed makes the hair look slightly more helmet-like. Also, as a fan of fantasy/sci-fi art, and as someone who has sketched numerous young ladies myself, I find that most hairstyles tend to cover the ears naturally anyway. Every time I see pics of elves (or Vulcans) the artists seem to go to pains to show the ears, and it usually strikes me as forced.

So, I vote covered ears.

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P.S. Sorry, Vektor, I posted this from my phone before your post went up, and I guess the magic of phone tech delayed actually getting it up for an hour. Ah well.

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Old December 8 2013, 09:10 AM   #34
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Old December 8 2013, 09:45 AM   #35
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Re: Non-Trek - A Present for Mom

Looking fantastic man. Really well done and a cool design on the armor too. Watch out for the way you've lit the face though; at first glance in the zoomed out shot it almost looks like she has a 5-o'clock shadow.
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Old December 8 2013, 02:15 PM   #36
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Very nice work
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Old December 8 2013, 06:32 PM   #37
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Not sure how I missed this thread. That is some stunning work as usual.

Not being a religious person, it reminds me of the artwork from Magic the Gathering angel cards.
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Old December 8 2013, 07:28 PM   #38
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this is beautiful, its amazing
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Old December 11 2013, 09:34 AM   #39
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Thanks for sticking with me, gang. I think I'm into the home stretch now. I still have one more "coat tail" to add and a fair amount of clean-up left to do, not to mention a TON of detail to do on the wings, but I think I finally got her hair figured out and I'd say the armor is close to final.



And... as much I love the texture and slight vignette effect of the texture overlay, I am sorely tempted to dispense with it altogether, especially since this is going to be printed on canvas. What do you all think? Keep it? Dump it? Something in-between?

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Old December 11 2013, 10:50 AM   #40
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Personally, i love the texture. I'd say keep it. The "dirt" of it (for me anyway) ties it to the devotional artwork of earlier centuries, which I like to have as a sort of anchor as the rest of the style is a fairly modern style. Lose the texture and you lose the connection. I dunno, there's just something pseudo-Victorian about the scratches and the rose silhouettes that really gives this image the punch it doesn't quite have without them...

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Old December 11 2013, 05:49 PM   #41
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I really like the texture too, but with the added texture of the canvas you might lose the fine details.
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Old December 11 2013, 07:29 PM   #42
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I plan to keep the texture overlay with the dirt and scratches and roses in the corners but I'm going to lower the opacity, possibly as low as 25%. I probably will not use the canvas texture, though; I'm concerned that it will either disappear when printed on actual canvas or that it might muddy the image or even create a visible moire pattern.


Stuff left to do:


1. Finish rendering her legs and hip armor.
2. Add the third "coat tail" from her left hip.
3. Smooth and blend the halo light around her head.
4. Make the skin tones a little less... florid? Oversaturated? Not sure exactly what's off but it needs some adjustment.
5. Make some final tweaks to her hairline and match her ponytail to her hair texture.
6. Finish rendering the sword, brighten the highlights, add the pommel, maybe add some etching and/or filigree to the blade.
7. Brighten the armor overall, add some very slight specular bloom to the highlights, etching/filigree as appropriate.
8. Finish rendering the wings.


If anyone has any other comments or suggestions, now's the time. I have to finish this and get it to the printer by Friday afternoon at the latest in order to get it back and have it framed in time for Christmas. Obviously I'm not going to have time for any major changes like a different pose or whatever, but I'm keenly interested in anything else I can reasonably do to improve it.


Thanks for looking.
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Old December 12 2013, 04:31 AM   #43
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Why not do both?
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Old December 12 2013, 04:51 AM   #44
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Re: Non-Trek - A Present for Mom

I think splitting the difference is the right call there (though it does frame the subject very well as it is), but you might consider getting a small one printed as a test if there is time and it isn't going to set you back too much. It is always a hard call to make going from digital to printed when you only have one shot at it.

I really don't think you'll miss the canvas texture at all once it is printed.
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Old December 12 2013, 08:19 AM   #45
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Oh yeah, regarding the canvas texture, I'd certainly lose that if it's gong to be printed on canvas. That would look weird. I always hate when there's a a fake texture competing with the same real texture.

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