RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,620
Posts: 5,426,345
Members: 24,810
Currently online: 427
Newest member: 8 of 9

TrekToday headlines

IDW Publishing December Trek Comics
By: T'Bonz on Sep 17

September Loot Crate Features Trek Surprise
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

USS Enterprise Miniature Out For Refit
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Comic Crossover
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Trek 3 Shooting Next Spring?
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek: Alien Domain Game Announced
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Red Shirt Diaries Episode Three
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Made Out Of Mudd Photonovel
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Takei Has Growth Removed
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Retro Review: Tears of the Prophets
By: Michelle on Sep 12


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Doctor Who

Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: So what did you think?
Brilliant: Geronimo. 188 77.69%
Very Good: Bow Ties are Cool! 38 15.70%
Ok: Come along Ponds. 10 4.13%
Passable: Fish Fingers and Custard. 5 2.07%
Terrible: Who da man? 1 0.41%
Voters: 242. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 24 2013, 07:02 AM   #211
Pavonis
Commodore
 
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

JRoss wrote: View Post
I bet that Capaldi rounds the up in the next season to recruit them for the freezing of Gallifrey. We could get an episode with each of the surviving Doctors.
Hey, that's a great idea! I'd love to see the same events from Capaldi's Doctor's perspective, and I can totally see how he'd be the one to rally himself. Ten and Eleven didn't do it, that's certain.
Pavonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 07:02 AM   #212
Brent
Admiral
 
Brent's Avatar
 
Location: TARDIS
Send a message via ICQ to Brent Send a message via AIM to Brent Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Brent
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

So, I had the pleasure of watching this today live simulcast, straight from the BBC America (no commercials) at Wizard World's Comic Con in Austin, TX. A shoutout to everyone who was in Ballroom D for the screening. What an awesome experience watching it live with all the other thousands of Doctor Who fans in one big ballroom, it was bloody fantastic! That made the whole experience that much better
__________________
"Would you mind not standing on my chest? My hat's on fire." - The Doctor

My Let's Play Series of STO - http://www.youtube.com/user/JustGaming4Us
Brent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 07:44 AM   #213
Kestrel
Vice Admiral
 
Kestrel's Avatar
 
Location: East Tennessee
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

That was... utterly fantastic! So many smiles, so much wonderfulness in that special!

I have to disagree that this was just a reveal about the true last days of the Time War though, I think it legitimately was a rewrite - after all, time can be rewritten!

ATimson wrote: View Post
Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
I liked Bad Wolf/Rose. I liked how Bad Wolf brought Hurt's Doctor together with his future so that he could see what he would become if he went through with the using the Moment, and she brought the future Doctors back so that they could find a way.
Funny. I'd thought that was all actually the Moment, and that the Bad Wolf thing was just a pointless namedrop. Rewatching her first scene, with the eyelash, I think I've come around to your interpretation.
I like the theory from upthread that the Moment was Bad Wolf, that when she scattered across time and space she became the inexplicable consciousness that an ultimate doomsday weapon somehow developed.
__________________
"If Romeo had just masturbated a couple of times a week he would have saved both those nice families a heap of trouble."
Kestrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 07:49 AM   #214
Pavonis
Commodore
 
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

Yes, I think it's a rewrite. Certainly seemed to be what Eleven considered it to be. They "remembered" doing it one way - actually using the Moment - and now they didn't, but the event looks the same in both histories, so the consequences don't "hit" until Eleven finally gets past this knot in his timeline.
Pavonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 07:58 AM   #215
Gov Kodos
Admiral
 
Gov Kodos's Avatar
 
Location: Gov Kodos Regretably far from Boston
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

I want to know who the hand is that's coming out of the picture. It can't be Clara unless she's amazingly double jointed, the Kates are over by the table and the science girls are not wearing black. So who is it?



It looks like Clara's right hand, so...?

__________________
We are quicksilver, a fleeting shadow, a distant sound... our home has no boundaries beyond which we cannot pass. We live in music, in a flash of color... we live on the wind and in the sparkle of a star! Endora, Bewitched

Last edited by Gov Kodos; November 24 2013 at 08:22 AM.
Gov Kodos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:03 AM   #216
Mr. Adventure
Admiral
 
Mr. Adventure's Avatar
 
Location: Mr. Adventure
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

Leonardo T. Dragon wrote: View Post
chelly wrote: View Post
The preshow was bad. The episode was wonderful.
I'm willing to bet no one in that pre-show panel has ever watched a classic Who episode.
And I don't think Tennant or Smith have ever seen Terminator, Terminator 2, Planet of the Apes or The Wrath of Khan.
Mr. Adventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:04 AM   #217
TJ Sinclair
Captain
 
TJ Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: There and back again...
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

I felt like I got my "anniversary gift" when I saw Night of the Doctor last week. Those 6 minutes were everything I wanted, and I found that I couldn't care less what happened in Day of the Doctor. Based on the last series, I wasn't expecting much more than some big set pieces and slapdash dialogue, because Moffat-as-showrunner seemed to lose the heart and soul of the writer of "The Doctor Dances," "The Girl In the Fireplace," "Blink," "Silence In the Library" and "The Eleventh Hour."

But I loved it. It's popcorn. It's set pieces. It's just an excuse to get multiple Doctors together without much of a plot. But guess what? So's "The Five Doctors." Hope all you want, but anyone expecting something with a substantial story was probably going into this with the wrong idea in mind.

I assiduously avoided the trailers and as many spoilers as possible. Knew the basics -- Tennant, Piper, Zygons, etc -- and that's fine, but I'm glad I avoided everything else. I went into this expecting nothing much, honestly, of what I really wanted, so I was extremely surprised as the special rolled along and it became clear how much a celebration of the show's history it really was, and not just an end to the Time War.

The point is still seeing Smith and Tennant interact (with Hurt's running commentary). And that's fine. I'm very gratified that we didn't actually get Rose Tyler, who remains (thanks to series two) my most despised companion of the last fifty years. Whether it was just the "Moment Interface" or an actual appearance of the Bad Wolf entity, doesn't actually matter to me. It wasn't the "real" Rose, and she wasn't being whiny and annoying.

I wasn't expecting Kate Stewart. Very nice addition, even if it does through a monkey wrench into Clara's timeline. We know Clara was from 2013, and so we've gone at least five years beyond that in her personal timeline, unless the Doctor dropped her off a few years late after "The Name of the Doctor" (which could happen, like Rose's missing year between "Rose" and "Aliens of London").

And while yes, it didn't really have anything to do with "the main story," I'm very glad Moffat took the opportunity to tie up the loose ends with Elizabeth I. To my mind, that's the only "significant" unanswered question from Tennant's era that remained. As for where in Ten's timeline this falls, I see people assuming that it's between The Waters of Mars and The End of Time, but I'd place it between The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead. That seems to fit better with the characterization.

And then the bait & switch plan to save Gallifrey. Nicely done, and no it doesn't actually change anything that came before. For me, the fact that Nine, Ten and (until now) Eleven have been carrying guilt for something they didn't do only adds to the pathos and the sacrifice for the character, especially Hurt's incarnation.

All twelve. No, all thirteen. Did not see that last bit coming. The eyes. I think my brain exploded a little. Geronimo. Alons-y. Oh for God's sake!

And The Curator. My hearts stopped. Both of them, and I actually only have one. It was that momentous.

Flawed plot? Wonky pacing? Yes. But I expected those from an anniversary special. It's in keeping with tradition.

But in the ways that matter as an anniversary special? It was so good that I'm regenerating.
__________________
"Social harmony is not a good goal. There's plenty of social harmony in a prison camp. The individual is the smallest and most oppressed minority..." -- Diane Carey, April 2001
TJ Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:10 AM   #218
Pavonis
Commodore
 
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

TJ Sinclair wrote: View Post
As for where in Ten's timeline this falls, I see people assuming that it's between The Waters of Mars and The End of Time, but I'd place it between The Next Doctor and Planet of the Dead. That seems to fit better with the characterization.
But in the beginning of "The End of Time", doesn't Ten meet with Ood Sigma, wearing a lai and sunglasses, bragging about marrying Good Queen Bess (I've not watched it recently). Seems like it would fit better between WoM and EoT, but, yeah, he could've had this adventure anytime between "Journey's End" and "The End of Time".

And then the bait & switch plan to save Gallifrey. Nicely done, and no it doesn't actually change anything that came before. For me, the fact that Nine, Ten and (until now) Eleven have been carrying guilt for something they didn't do only adds to the pathos and the sacrifice for the character, especially Hurt's incarnation.
I like that. Feeling guilty, whether it happened one way or the other, says something about the Doctor's character, and he believed he had done something heinous. Now, though, maybe he'll stop with all the self-loathing.

All twelve. No, all thirteen. Did not see that last bit coming. The eyes. I think my brain exploded a little. Geronimo. Alons-y. Oh for God's sake!
Loved it! I did not expect the Capaldi cameo, but am so glad they included him!
Pavonis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:14 AM   #219
The Mirrorball Man
Vice Admiral
 
The Mirrorball Man's Avatar
 
Location: Switzerland
View The Mirrorball Man's Twitter Profile
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

JRoss wrote: View Post
Dear Mr. Moffat,

In light of the events of the last 24 hours you are hereby forgiven for the past four years.

Warmest regards,
The Fans
Dear JRoss,

"The Fans" don't think Mr. Moffat has done anything that would require us to forgive him, thank you very much.

TJ Sinclair wrote: View Post
But I loved it. It's popcorn. It's set pieces. It's just an excuse to get multiple Doctors together without much of a plot. But guess what? So's "The Five Doctors." Hope all you want, but anyone expecting something with a substantial story was probably going into this with the wrong idea in mind.
Not much of a plot, that's true, but the story was substantial, in my opinion. While The Five Doctors was just an excuse to get all the Doctors to participate in a crazy adventure, The Day of the Doctor was mostly a character piece, with a dramatic arc and genuine character development.
__________________
Check out my deviantArt gallery!
The Mirrorball Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:47 AM   #220
davejames
Vice Admiral
 
Location: Sac, Ca
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

So... I guess we're supposed to assume that once the Doctor found Clara in his time stream at the end of the season finale, they found a way back out immediately after?

The finale kind of made it seem like it would be more of a challenge than that, but apparently not so much. I mean, I certainly love the opening that Moffat went with for the special, but it does leave a pretty big loose end I think (much more than, say, the destruction of the TARDIS in Season 5, which frankly never bugged me that much).
davejames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:53 AM   #221
TJ Sinclair
Captain
 
TJ Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: There and back again...
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

davejames wrote: View Post
So... I guess we're supposed to assume that once the Doctor found Clara in his time stream at the end of the season finale, they found a way back out immediately after?

The finale kind of made it seem like it would be more of a challenge than that, but apparently not so much. I mean, I certainly love the opening that Moffat went with for the special, but it does leave a pretty big loose end I think (much more than, say, the destruction of the TARDIS in Season 5, which frankly never bugged me that much).
Yes, it's a gap, but I'm not all that worried about it. I'm still far more interested in who/what grabbed the TARDIS and made her explode.
__________________
"Social harmony is not a good goal. There's plenty of social harmony in a prison camp. The individual is the smallest and most oppressed minority..." -- Diane Carey, April 2001
TJ Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:57 AM   #222
Orac Zen
Mischief Manager
 
Orac Zen's Avatar
 
Location: Missing him ^
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

Given the presence of Tennant and Piper (and having avoided spoilers and all but one trailer), I went into this with extremely low expectations. I detest Tennant's Doctor beyond any and every attempt at description and I'd long since grown tired of Rose showing up so often after supposedly being Gone Forever.

To my great surprise it ended up being quite enjoyable.

Piper wasn't (irritating beyond belief / dribbling over the Doctor) Rose. Someone managed to get Tennant to tone down the usual insufferable mugging to a dull roar. Both very, very good things. Even Baker was subdued - also a novelty. So the things I'd expected to be unwatchable turned out much better than I'd expected or hoped. As an extra bonus, Clara wasn't as annoying as usual, either.

I'll watch the repeat in a while and see if the whole thing falls apart but in general it seemed to make a reasonable amount of sense - or as much sense as new Who makes. Moffat managed to undo the whole absurd Doctor-as-destroyer-of-his-world thing without wrecking the characterisations of the RTD era. It's no "Blink"-esque masterpiece but it's not a complete mess either - on first viewing at least.

Smith was quite brilliant; I'm going to miss him.

I'll call it Very Good for now.
__________________
Max 2008 - 2013
Orac Zen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 08:59 AM   #223
TJ Sinclair
Captain
 
TJ Sinclair's Avatar
 
Location: There and back again...
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

Orac Zen wrote: View Post
It's no "Blink"-esque masterpiece
Nothing will ever be that good again.
__________________
"Social harmony is not a good goal. There's plenty of social harmony in a prison camp. The individual is the smallest and most oppressed minority..." -- Diane Carey, April 2001
TJ Sinclair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 09:00 AM   #224
The Stig
Rear Admiral
 
The Stig's Avatar
 
Location: Dunsfold Aerodrome, Surrey
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

I'm not sure I can speak bout this episode coherently yet. All I know for sure is that was thematically perfect. And the Baker cameo, what a delight! Revisiting old faces indeed.

Moffat has done the impossible and surmounted the hype. Fantastic!
__________________
Some say that he was the first choice to play the new Doctor but turned it down when he couldn't put racing stripes on the TARDIS.

All we know is, he's called The Stig.
The Stig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 24 2013, 09:06 AM   #225
Cutter John
Rear Admiral
 
Cutter John's Avatar
 
Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.
Re: The Day of the Doctore Review Thread (Spoilers?)

Someone mentioned a few pages back wanting the final shot as a wallpaper?

http://s677.photobucket.com/user/pan...0b8af.jpg.html

Keep clicking the icon in the lower right to get to the full sized version.
__________________
"The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."
Cutter John is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.