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Old November 23 2013, 03:44 AM   #16
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

Vic exists in the mirror universe for the same reason that Jake Sisko and the O'Brien kids don't....
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Old November 23 2013, 05:17 AM   #17
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

Vic is in the MU for the same reason that in a universe that's completely different in every way from the prime universe, everybody has an exact physical duplicate of themselves.
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Old November 23 2013, 06:11 AM   #18
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

It's one of those unsolved mysteries of the Star Trek universe. After transferring to a college, I was frequently asked if I was related to a guy named Jay, and that I looked a lot like him. When I finally met Jay a year later, it was uncanny. He looked more like my brother than my brother does.
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Old November 23 2013, 06:28 AM   #19
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

I'll bet there are people who are willing to lend their visage to help develop a product; that is to say, modeling may still be a profession in the 24th century.
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Old November 23 2013, 06:41 AM   #20
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

I figured Vic was real, he was like Tony Bennett to Felix and as a fan he put him in a holodeck program. In the MU he sure as hell couldn't be a lounge singer.
It's like of you made a holoprogram of a club or bar, wouldn't you make a holo version of a real singer or band you loved to play in it?
Since there's no money in the Federation, you can use a persons image or body of work without paying royalities?
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Old November 23 2013, 09:32 AM   #21
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

Not to mention Ezri just happened to be there in the MU during the season 7 timeframe.

She may not have been joined though. It could have just been Ezri Tigan, not Ezri Dax
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Old November 23 2013, 10:42 AM   #22
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

Right now I'm playing Beyond Two Souls with Ellen Page and Willem Dafoe. I'm always amazed when I see them in real life. Just how can that be?


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You had it right from the start. Best not to hurt our heads too much over this one.
Like the Klingon forehead issue in the TOS episode. They just have just left it at that.




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Old November 23 2013, 12:50 PM   #23
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Not to mention Ezri just happened to be there in the MU during the season 7 timeframe.

She may not have been joined though. It could have just been Ezri Tigan, not Ezri Dax
MU Ezri was unjoined.

I always wished MU Jadzia was unjoined. First viewing, I actually thought that when Sisko called her Dax, he had tipped off that he was an imposter by calling her a name that wasn't hers. Was not to be, though.
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Old November 23 2013, 02:58 PM   #24
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Huh. I could've sworn MU Ezri was joined with Dax. I even vaguely remember that there was some suggestion that Ezri had a hand in Jadzia's death to get the Dax symbiote. Could that have come from a book? Maybe it's about a different AU and not the MU? Or maybe my imagination just made that up.
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Old November 23 2013, 04:51 PM   #25
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

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Huh. I could've sworn MU Ezri was joined with Dax.
She angrily replies "I'm not Dax!" at one point in the episode when Rom or Quark mistakes her for the real Ezri.
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Old November 23 2013, 05:42 PM   #26
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It sounds like I'm mistaken then. It is more interesting that Ezri isn't joined.
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Old November 24 2013, 01:38 AM   #27
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Re: How the hell is Vic Fontaine in the MU?

^ Makes sense, really. Nobody in the MU knows about the wormhole, so then they can't know about the Prophets or Pah-wraiths. And since regular-Jadzia was killed BY the Pah-wraiths...her MU counterpart must, logically, survive. Thus, Dax is still inside Jadzia.

At least until MU-Jadzia is herself killed ("The Emperor's New Cloak"). So it would seem that the mirror Dax symbiont is also dead.

Oh, wait a minute: Never mind. I did some checking - in the MU, Jadzia isn't Dax either. The mu-Dax never left Curzon.
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Old November 24 2013, 02:22 AM   #28
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That doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure MU Jadzia was Dax, given her relationship with Sisko. Didn't he still call her Old Man?
I thought Ezri killed Jadzia, but even if I'm wrong about that, Jadzia could've died some other way.
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Old November 24 2013, 02:24 AM   #29
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I'll bet there are people who are willing to lend their visage to help develop a product; that is to say, modeling may still be a profession in the 24th century.
Of course it is. Julian was a candidate for the new version of the EMH.
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Old November 24 2013, 02:27 AM   #30
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That doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure MU Jadzia was Dax, given her relationship with Sisko. Didn't he still call her Old Man?
I thought Ezri killed Jadzia, but even if I'm wrong about that, Jadzia could've died some other way.
I think Sisko called her "Dax" at one point. She doesn't correct him, but maybe she just didn't feel like it. mu-Jadzia didn't have the same relationship with her Sisko as in the RU; I think their mirror selves were just ex-lovers. (I find it unlikely that the mirrors of Sisko and Curzon even met in the first place.) And from the look of it, they didn't break up on the friendliest of terms.

And mu-Ezri did not kill Jadzia. That much I know.
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