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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old November 22 2013, 01:27 PM   #31
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Re: An Adventure in Space and Time - Grade and Discuss

That television at the party turned on outstandingly fast.
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Old November 22 2013, 01:45 PM   #32
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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.

What amuses me is that I had a similar reaction to Gatiss' "Invaders from Mars" a decade ago. The historical inaccuracies there were many and they were egregious.
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Old November 22 2013, 02:07 PM   #33
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Real life doesn't make for good movies.
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Old November 22 2013, 02:44 PM   #34
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The bit at the end took me out of it somewhat. I wonder if we'll be seeing that scene in a different context before the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of Day of the Doctor, Matt Smith is standing alone in his console room looks up and standing before him for a moment is David Bradley as the Doctor staring back at him.
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Old November 22 2013, 06:25 PM   #35
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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.
I'd say "this time, it's the historical inaccuracies that have driven him around the bend". There's always something, isn't there?
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Old November 22 2013, 06:46 PM   #36
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I thought it was pretty good for what it was. The writing was a little more cutesy and superficial than I was expecting, and made it feel more like a simplistic Cliff Notes version of history than a real look back at the making of the show.

But David Bradley's performance was so strong and moving that I thought it somehow made the movie work anyway. It was hard not to feel for him as he struggled to concentrate or remember his lines towards the end, and there were moments where he sounded so much like Hartnell that it gave me chills.

As for the final cameo, my only complaint is it looked a little too much like the actor was inserted digitally after the fact, instead of actually being filmed on the set. Which just made the whole thing look a bit cheesier than it should have for my taste.
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Old November 22 2013, 09:02 PM   #37
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Excellent! What struck me the most wasn't the recreated scenes from the Hartnell stories but rather how it brought that era to life. Quite amazing how a show that was created in a totally different world still works today, largely unchanged!

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Old November 22 2013, 09:23 PM   #38
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Yes I wasn't totally sold on Shearsmith either, but given it was a very small cameo there probably wasn't time for a more nuanced portrayal.
Yeah, I wasn't that fond of his look either. Otoh he nailed the voice.

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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.

What amuses me is that I had a similar reaction to Gatiss' "Invaders from Mars" a decade ago. The historical inaccuracies there were many and they were egregious.
Jesus I hate people like this. A showrunner can only work with the resources and money they have.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:30 PM   #39
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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.

What amuses me is that I had a similar reaction to Gatiss' "Invaders from Mars" a decade ago. The historical inaccuracies there were many and they were egregious.
Jesus I hate people like this. A showrunner can only work with the resources and money they have.
I think Lawrence's point was that history was more interesting than the fantasy version he saw in AAiSaT. And he's right; film tones down history because it's messy and makes for poor storytelling. Storytelling needs character arcs, but real people don't develop (or behave) in ways that naturally lend themselves to that.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:39 PM   #40
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Magnificent, gave it 4/5 (although I rate it myself as 4 and a half stars. )

Was almost at 5, but the first like 5 minutes were a bit boring, but other than that fantastic. Although I didn't like the casting for Ian. Plus the Tenth Planet Cyberman costume looked quite different to the actual tenth planet cybermen for some reason. Can't put my finger on it.

At the beginning of it before Hartnel was cast as the Doctor, I began to hate him; he was bitter, shouted and was quite cruel to his granddaughter. But after he was cast we gradually saw him turn soft and kind. Some lovely moments, was heart-breaking when the original producer left and Hartnel had to deal with this incompetent newbie, and it was also tragic when he couldn't cope and eventually had to leave. Heart-breaking. Not on Earth sure about that cameo from Matt Smith though. I mean Smith wasn't even born then. And I'm pretty sure William Hartnel never hallucinated Matt Smith being there while filming his regeneration. Plus in a few years time when Capaldi or even the 13th doctor is the current, that will definitely seem outdated. I mean in the long run, there's nothing really special about Smith out of all the doctors.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:45 PM   #41
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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.
Seems to have gone AWOL. Wonder if revising it?

As a very casual DW watcher - but much more familiar with TVC and production - enjoyed recreation, period details and character sketches, even if not sure whole worked as drama. But I thought the Matt Smith moment was lovely and nicely done.
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Old November 22 2013, 10:55 PM   #42
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I think Lawrence's point was that history was more interesting than the fantasy version he saw in AAiSaT. And he's right; film tones down history because it's messy and makes for poor storytelling. Storytelling needs character arcs, but real people don't develop (or behave) in ways that naturally lend themselves to that.
Which is why most sensible people go into a historical story knowing that things are going to be changed. Unless its something really egregious (A nuclear carrier turning up in a WW2 film for example), complaining about changes seems a bit pointless.
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Old November 22 2013, 11:14 PM   #43
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Lawrence Miles weighs in. The historical inaccuracies have driven him around the bend.
Seems to have gone AWOL. Wonder if revising it?
He often only leaves his Doctor Who posts up for a day. It's in my RSS reader at home (once it's loaded it never leaves). I'll see about posting it when I leave the office if you're interested.

His latest blog post seems to be his final word on Doctor Who.
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Old November 22 2013, 11:25 PM   #44
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Okay is this a two hour special or a serirs?
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His latest blog post seems to be his final word on Doctor Who.

OhpleaseOhpleaseOhpleaseOhplease...
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