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Old January 3 2014, 06:48 AM   #121
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Re: Star Trek: Phase II - "Kitumba" Officially Released!

Alan Smithee was a credit that a DGA Director would take (between 1968 and 2000) when s/he didn't want their name associated with a film; as authors will use a nom de plume when a script gets changed to the point they don't want their good name associated with it. To take such a credit was a guild-based decision, and not something the producers (in a pro production, anyway) could decide.

My only comment re the director credit is that Phase II clearly decided to change their to-date policy for crediting directors in this one instance, and it does stand out as inconsistent. I'm not going to pretend to know enough to pass judgement on the whys of that decision, but that it was done is obvious.
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Old January 3 2014, 09:58 AM   #122
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My only technical nit-pick with this episode is some of the camera angles used in the transporter room. While I am sure that the Phase II team built the set according to the TOS layout, the camera angles sometimes showed how small that room really is. It was interesting but it put me off a little bit. I could write a list of things I loved about this episode, but that would take all day.
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Old January 3 2014, 10:51 AM   #123
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The transporter room scene is just overcrowded with characters who don't need to be there. It really only needed Kirk, Spock, Scotty and the Admiral.
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Old January 3 2014, 03:52 PM   #124
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This was great, thanks very much to the cast and crew. It was engaging, mostly well acted, and felt even more professional than the last one.

Some (well all really) of the effects stuff was really super pretty too, loving that work.
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Old January 3 2014, 04:56 PM   #125
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What's this talk of missing Cawley's Kirk from now on? Isn't he supposed to be in the yet to be released Origins and Mindsifter episodes...
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Old January 3 2014, 05:25 PM   #126
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He decided not to do the role anymore.
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Old January 3 2014, 05:29 PM   #127
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I think it was said both episodes would be reshot with Brian Gross as Kirk...
Here is a James Cawley quote regarding this:
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In post production we have “Bread and Savagery” which is next in line for release. “Mind-Sifter” will be shot and completed in late June of this year with Brian Gross. The episode “Origins” has been placed on hold, pending a complete re shoot due to complications with actor availability.
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Old January 3 2014, 06:48 PM   #128
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As for the story, what was running the Klingon Empire prior to this episode since they just started the High Council in it, and supposedly there were no emperors for 2 centuries in TOS times.
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Old January 3 2014, 07:31 PM   #129
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As for the story, what was running the Klingon Empire prior to this episode since they just started the High Council in it, and supposedly there were no emperors for 2 centuries in TOS times.
Speaking as a totally ignorant person, I took it to be an hereditary religious dictatorship, sort of like some of the leaders in the Middle East many of whom claim descent from Mohammud.

But I'm just telling you what I, as an uninformed person assumed, I have no knowledge.
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Old January 3 2014, 08:37 PM   #130
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Wow, that was brilliant. thank you for the hard work. Good things come to those who wait.
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Old January 3 2014, 09:04 PM   #131
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Alan Smithee was a credit that a DGA Director would take (between 1968 and 2000) when s/he didn't want their name associated with a film; as authors will use a nom de plume when a script gets changed to the point they don't want their good name associated with it. To take such a credit was a guild-based decision, and not something the producers (in a pro production, anyway) could decide.

My only comment re the director credit is that Phase II clearly decided to change their to-date policy for crediting directors in this one instance, and it does stand out as inconsistent. I'm not going to pretend to know enough to pass judgement on the whys of that decision, but that it was done is obvious.
Your only assumption regarding it, you mean.

Deniz Cordell, a long time supporter, crew and cast member of ours, who directed a good portion of the footage we used, is also credited in the same fashion in this episode.
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Old January 3 2014, 09:07 PM   #132
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If it were a DGA production, the guild would certainly arbitrate who received credit, the original or the replacement director, based on the work completed. The DGA only allows directorial teams to take credit in rare circumstances.
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Old January 3 2014, 09:13 PM   #133
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If it were a DGA production, the guild would certainly arbitrate who received credit, the original or the replacement director, based on the work completed. The DGA only allows directorial teams to take credit in rare circumstances.
Not really relevant, since ALL of them got credited, and Vic got top director credit. Deniz got "Second Unit Director" credit under him, followed by the Assistant Director credits.
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Old January 3 2014, 09:16 PM   #134
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And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon . . .
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Old January 3 2014, 09:35 PM   #135
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If it were a DGA production, the guild would certainly arbitrate who received credit, the original or the replacement director, based on the work completed. The DGA only allows directorial teams to take credit in rare circumstances.
Not really relevant, since ALL of them got credited, and Vic got top director credit. Deniz got "Second Unit Director" credit under him, followed by the Assistant Director credits.
Ah, that's fair. I misread your post.
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