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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old November 23 2013, 01:41 AM   #31
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

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Happy 19th birthday, Generations movie -- and happy 21st birthday, shot of the Klingon ship exploding.
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Old November 23 2013, 02:55 AM   #32
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!



True dat.

I'm pretty sure I saw that Bird-of-Prey explode at the end of a 1993 laxative commercial.
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Old November 23 2013, 03:25 AM   #33
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Generations FX team guy - oh man how we going to do this shot of the BOP blowing up?

FX guy at the back - erm remember that scene in Star Trek II of the enterprise in space dock....
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Old November 24 2013, 07:16 AM   #34
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People always rag on the stock footage of the BoP exploding, but let's be honest, it's hardly the only piece of stock used in GENS, is it? But nobody ever moans about the stock shots of the Enterprise at warp being cribbed straight from the TV series...
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Old November 24 2013, 07:26 AM   #35
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

The shot of the Enterprise-D right before the Stellar Cartography sequence is the same-old flyby you see in umpteen episodes of TNG, just blown up for the big screen (and not all that smoothly either).
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Old November 24 2013, 02:27 PM   #36
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

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The shot of the Enterprise-D right before the Stellar Cartography sequence is the same-old flyby you see in umpteen episodes of TNG, just blown up for the big screen (and not all that smoothly either).
Be grateful, because that was the first time they recognized they could do a TNG remastered at some point eventually.
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Old November 24 2013, 08:53 PM   #37
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Oh, it looked better than the TV flyby. It just looked like a less expensive and sophisticated TV optical effect transferred and then blown up for a big screen audience, that's all. They cut corners where they could to speed up production and make sure the film was in theaters by Thanksgiving of '94.
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Old November 24 2013, 09:06 PM   #38
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I used to collect the film posters, and the Generations poster was the last one I had. I liked it enough to have it framed. Then, the first time I moved with it, it got destroyed. Along with one of my Bodum cups, just like the ones Picard drank his tea out of. Gave up on posters after that, but still have one of the cups.
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To this day it remains one of my two favorite Trek film posters.

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Old November 25 2013, 03:30 AM   #40
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

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Happy 19th birthday, Generations movie -- and happy 21st birthday, shot of the Klingon ship exploding.
I just had birthday cake coming out of my nose...

And it's almost 22 years since TUC, right?
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

22 years on December 6th! And we're also closing in on thirty years since The Search for Spock (next summer).
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Old November 28 2013, 11:10 AM   #42
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

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For all its flaws, the biggest problem with Generations was how emotionally "flat" the losses of Kirk and the Enterprise felt. If they could've given those two bits more emotional "oomph", I think the film would be remembered much more fondly.

Makes me sad that it was the only time we get to see a Galaxy-class starship on the big-screen.
They forgot that the Enterprise herself was a character, and to have Picard just say, "Oh well, we all know we'll get an even better ship for Christmas!" was an absolute insult. If the crew doesn't even care about their ship, why should I? Maybe that's why I never got into the Enterprise E.
Aye. Compare the death of the Enterprise-D vs. the the death of the original Big E in TSFS, and the latter was definitely more emotional. Shatner really sold the idea that Kirk's heart sank *hard*, complete with the ship falling through the sky like a shooting star from old fairy tales.

One thing about the E-D is that it had a large TV audience and she withstood everything that the universe threw at her for 7 years. To get punked out like that with little emotional impact is an understatement.

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I do think the ship was "disrespected" to a degree, by one really stupid factor: the Bird of Prey. Shields or no shields, having the E-D get taken down by that dinky little thing was just weird.
Not just a dinky ship, but visually speaking, it was virtually the same ship that had been featured in the previous 4 movies, too. At first glance, it's a ship that older, obsolete Enterprises defeated in the past. Secondly, by repeating the same design 4 times in a row (esp. when facing literally the future of Star Trek), the audience's sense of threat disappears and we're forced to wonder, "Who cares?"

Had the ship been a Vorcha class, at least that would simultaneously be a money-saver while still presenting something relatively new, at least on the big screen. I half-expected a BoP to somehow pop up during First Contact!
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Old November 28 2013, 07:10 PM   #43
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True dat.

I'm pretty sure I saw that Bird-of-Prey explode at the end of a 1993 laxative commercial.
Guess they got comfortable cramp-free relief.
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No comment.
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Old November 28 2013, 09:32 PM   #45
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Re: Happy 19th Birthday, Star Trek Generations!

Makes me sad that it was the only time we get to see a Galaxy-class starship on the big-screen.
I don't agree with the many people who think likewise, because The E-D though much loved is still a design-for-tv.

For the same reason they made the Refit (also known as E-A, Enterprise class, etc) and it looks so damn good.

IMHO , YMMV, of course
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