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Old November 19 2013, 03:21 AM   #16
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Re: Transformers G1: Favourite moments?

Favorite Megatron VS Starscream scene

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Old November 19 2013, 04:59 AM   #17
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Does anyone if Galvatron was really just Megatron in a different outfit? He seemed to have a different personality to Megatron, too.
He usually is a more advanced incarnation of Megatron, although the exact circumstances vary. The notable exception is the IDW continuity, where they're completely separate and unrelated characters (as are Bumblebee and Goldbug). The IDW Galvatron is similar to his counterparts in many other respects, but doesn't seem to have the mental issues that animated Galvatron did. The Marvel comics are sort of an odd duck, in that at least two separate Galvatrons appeared. Both of them seem to have followed how Megatron became Galvatron in the cartoon via Unicron, but the Marvel continuity didn't otherwise acknowledge the movie events as part of the comic continuity.

Confused yet? The Marvel Galvatrons seemed to be the only versions where his (their?) power was tied somehow into Unicron, and was therefore considerably more powerful than the average Transformer.
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Old November 19 2013, 08:17 AM   #18
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"Megatron? Is that YOU?"

"Here's a hint..."

Does anyone if Galvatron was really just Megatron in a different outfit? He seemed to have a different personality to Megatron, too.
Megatron IS Galvatron. Galvatron is just mentally unstable. they even have a whole episode devoted to his mental treatment.
Alright, thanks.

I still love the "Come on down Auto-brat" because of it's link to The Price is Right. Are there any others?
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Old November 19 2013, 10:27 AM   #19
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I too love the 1986 film - it was the first film I ever went to see more than once, and I still have the soundtrack album on tape - but I'm not that familiar with the TV show. It was all about the comics for me. Mostly the UK ones, but they occasionally brought in some of the US stories as well.

And I clearly remember, from the few times I did catch the TV show, how much more intelligent and literate the comics seemed in comparison. The TV show seemed so dumbed down, so explosions-and-one-liners, whereas the comics managed to create some really great, well-told, clever stories. Much like Trek Lit has done with some of the less brilliant Trek TV.

Of course, I was about 11 at the time so one's ability to appreciate great literature is somewhat limited.

I adored Target 2006, the comics' movie tie-in. It set off a whole series of multi-part stories that spread out over the years from that point - Wanted Dead or Alive, The Legacy of Unicron, Space Pirates, Time Wars... Having never seen much of the TV show, I tend to think of the comics' versions of the various stories as the 'real' versions.

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Old November 19 2013, 11:38 AM   #20
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By far the best thread ever brought up by ReadyandWilling. Transformers was the greatest cartoon show ever. Period. G.i. Joe was second.

The first reason was that every character had distinct personalities. They also strived to give even third-tier characters their own episode, or, at least, their own episode sub-plot. I also loved the animation. I'll take less stylized drawings,, and making figures drawn to proportion any day over smoothness.

I loved the "Optimus Prime and John Wayne" bit mentioned above. Their fight (featuring the glowing weapons) atop the the damn was so memorable. Their entire exchange was classic. I give credit to the Michael Bay and his writers for making the dam important to his mythos of Transformers. It really is a sweet callback.

Not only did Optimus Prime have a bit more of an edge to him, but he was also more heroic than ever. I loved when he tried to pull the metal remains form the oil rig away to save the humans. Or, better yet: when he took a rocket pack so he could stop Megatron 's ship from reaching space. It affected me when they shot him down. It made the hero of the series even more special to me, that he couldn't always save the day, despite his best effort. He was as noble as Superman, and he was larger than life, but he was also very limited.

Oh yes, Dark Awakening was fantastic.

I love Starcream, and his creation of the Combaticons!

I loved Shockwave, guarding Cybertron after many years. They gave him a lot of good scenes when Spike, Swoop, and Carly were on Cybertron.

Loved the episode with the asteroid, the Dinobots, and Chip, the kid in the wheelchair.

Though Alita One was a fantastic character, the female equal to Prime himself. But I'm partial to Arcee. She;s a decent fighter for the most part, but she is truly a "delicate warrior" (as her recent independent figure says) but is was her delicacy that made her interesting. I remember really being affected when she got hurt, believe it or not. When she was shot in the knee in "Dark Awakening" my the neighbor kid next to me who was a little younger) asked "wait, is she crying?" and I kind of just said, "yeah it sounds like she is." I still believe that despite the fact that I've watched the episode recently and it sounds like shes trying not to cry. They also made me care about her when she was saved by Daniel in the Headmaster episode and then he decided to become her head.
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Old November 19 2013, 01:57 PM   #21
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In the movie, as Arcee and Springer are pushing the big launcher into place, she chides him for not fully understanding the situation.

And, "Such heroic nonsense."
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Old November 19 2013, 02:32 PM   #22
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I always liked Optimus Prime's line in Dark Awakening- "Monsters. They made me a weapon, to destroy the very ones I loved in life."


After that most would come from the movie. Always love the birth of Galvatron scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzNsOGt3bHk
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I'd also give a shout out to the s3 episode Call of the Primitives. Apart from the ending which I always think occurs so abruptly, its a great episode, the animation in particular is of very high standard (esp compared to the low standard of a lot of other s4 episodes.) The opening battle is awesome, and has a very anime style to it.
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Old November 19 2013, 02:52 PM   #23
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but I'm not that familiar with the TV show. It was all about the comics for me. Mostly the UK ones, but they occasionally brought in some of the US stories as well.
Not "occasionally" - the UK comic reprinted every single US story and, for the most part, tried to integrate US/UK into one big narrative.

Like you, I consider the UK comic saga the "definitive" telling of the TF story. It worked on so many levels (and as the UK storyline includes all the US stories, I include them in this statement).

The TV series... it was OK; it was rarely on here in the UK (on terrestrial TV, we pretty much just got season 1, with each episode broken down into 3-4 minute segments to play out across the week on Wac-a-Day. Curse you Timmy Mallett!!). I know some of the Sky channels got later seasons as well.

So, this was my exposure to the TV series (as well as the occasional Video Gems VHS release; they concentrated mostly on the 2-parters and editing them into "feature length" presentations). It was always fun to watch, but I never really considered it much as part of love for TF - the comics and the toys were where it was at.

Love the movie, though; and have fond memories of watching the old VHS "Arrival From Cybertron", "Megatron's Master Plan" etc.
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Old November 19 2013, 07:11 PM   #24
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My favorites go all the way back to the first mini, when Optimus Prime was less "elder statesman" and more "John Wayne." My absolute favorite quote comes when the Autobots have the Decepticons cornered at Sherman Dam and Optimus calls out: "Stick it in neutral, Megatron! Yer not goin' anywhere!"
Haha. Which episode was that?
Episode 2 of the mini. Episode 3 also has this classic exchange:

Megatron: "Did you really think you could fool me by letting Ravage escape? Did you?"

Prime: "Go on, Megatron. You're in the driver's seat."

I just love that throughout all three eps Prime talks like a militant mechanic.

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Can't remember the details but there was an episode where Star Scream finds his old partner? friend? Skyfire on Earth. It was a step above the usual drek the show had for scripts.
They were friends before the Cybertron wars and Skyfire was lost during one of their scientific surveys. In that one episode, Skyfire was found, recruited into the Decepticons, defected to the Autobots, and died.

Yep, definitely above and beyond the regular series scripts.
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Old November 20 2013, 01:39 AM   #25
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^ Died. Well, he did come back like 2 episodes later to be fair.
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^ Died. Well, he did come back like 2 episodes later to be fair.
Not saying otherwise. I'm just saying in that particular ep he sacrificed himself to save the autobots and at the end they were all like "We shall remember you, Skyfire..."
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Old November 20 2013, 03:45 AM   #27
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And I clearly remember, from the few times I did catch the TV show, how much more intelligent and literate the comics seemed in comparison. The TV show seemed so dumbed down, so explosions-and-one-liners, whereas the comics managed to create some really great, well-told, clever stories. Much like Trek Lit has done with some of the less brilliant Trek TV.
In fairness, the cartoon wasn't exactly dumbed down so much as targeted at kids somewhat more than the Marvel comics (arguably) were. I think the third season in particular suffers from that, and it seems in part like the writers couldn't really get a grip on some of the characters. I always liked both Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime, but the fact that Rodimus seemed to be emo didn't help.

Marvel had a bit more leeway in terms of what could be done in the comics, and I agree they handled some aspects a lot better. It's also cool that the UK branch was able to keep a very nice continuity structure for the stories that were integrated, even if it occasionally slipped (Megatron clone ).
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Old November 20 2013, 10:39 AM   #28
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i always liked Rodimus/Hot Rod. the death of Optimus Prime was one of the few times i ever cried over a movie.
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Old November 21 2013, 07:12 AM   #29
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I have always felt that the 3rd season is unfairly maligned. There are a number of great episodes and memorable moments. In terms of Rodimus' character, he was tough-minded in "Fight or Flee" and "The Ultimate Weapon", both good episodes, and then was capable of showing self-doubt at times, such as in "The Burden Hardest to Bear", another fine episode. I feel this is a positive for his character in season 3, seeing as how more aspects are displayed, he isn't one-dimensional, there are layers to him. Same with Galvatron, who also became more well-rounded in presentation thanks to an episode like "Webworld".

All of those aforementioned episodes have memorable moments for me, such as in "Webworld" when Cyclonus expressively regrets his decision to submit Galvatron for psychiatric care when the torture begins.

In "Fight or Flee", I love the sequence when Sandstorm convinces his planet's people to rebel against the Decepticons and it turns into a massive conflict. The ending is also memorable in its ambiguity and Rodimus' questionable actions.
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