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View Poll Results: Rate The Poisoned Chalice.
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Old December 2 2013, 08:39 AM   #91
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Liked it a lot. I do have two questions though. Number one: Was there a point to Riker's little face to face with the Pres-pro towards the end? Or was he just getting some things off his chest?

And would Vulcans with their green blood have purplish bruises?
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Old December 2 2013, 07:49 PM   #92
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Just finished it. Did not seem satisfying the way it ended. It also appears that Riker will remain an Admiral.
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Old December 2 2013, 08:18 PM   #93
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And would Vulcans with their green blood have purplish bruises?
Probably not. But the colour of bruises that would result in Tuvok's case might not yet have a name...?
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Old December 2 2013, 09:23 PM   #94
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It also appears that Riker will remain an Admiral.
Is that really a bad thing?

It'd be nice to see Star Trek move beyond that tired old "You can only make a difference if you're a captain on a starship!" trope.
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Old December 2 2013, 09:53 PM   #95
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read this across a couple of train journeys this week, and really enjoyed it. It ended a little abruptly, perhaps, but then we still have another novel to go - hopefully the last one will bring together the Titan, Enterprise and DS9 crews for the endgame.

Atia's dialogue reminded me very much of Spartacus: Blood and Guts - is the author a fan, by any chance?
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Old December 2 2013, 10:55 PM   #96
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...Atia's dialogue reminded me very much of Spartacus: Blood and Guts - is the author a fan, by any chance?
Atia was the name of an amazing character in the HBO series Rome, which is where I thought the homage was coming from (as Atia in TPC is from Magna Roma). Of course, her manner of speaking in Rome is not really like the way Atia from TPC speaks...
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Old December 2 2013, 11:19 PM   #97
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...Atia's dialogue reminded me very much of Spartacus: Blood and Guts - is the author a fan, by any chance?
Atia was the name of an amazing character in the HBO series Rome, which is where I thought the homage was coming from (as Atia in TPC is from Magna Roma). Of course, her manner of speaking in Rome is not really like the way Atia from TPC speaks...
Ah, I've never seen Rome so I didn't twig that.
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Old December 3 2013, 12:11 AM   #98
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It also appears that Riker will remain an Admiral.
Is that really a bad thing?

It'd be nice to see Star Trek move beyond that tired old "You can only make a difference if you're a captain on a starship!" trope.
The novels have up-ended the TV 'you can disobey orders whenever and still come out fine' with Reyes. I was amazed when he stayed gone. I do wonder if Dax will get back her command, though.
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Old December 3 2013, 01:24 AM   #99
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Was there a point to Riker's little face to face with the Pres-pro towards the end? Or was he just getting some things off his chest?
...other than acting like a total idiot and letting his emotions run wild? *shrugs* I assume it was just for the benefit of the readers to see the villain twirling his mustache.
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Old December 3 2013, 01:37 AM   #100
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Re: TF: The Poisoned Chalice by James Swallow Review Thread (Spoilers!

I'm disappointed with B&N right now. I have not been able to get my copy at all. I don't know why it's not out in the store at all. I have been trying to use the pick me up feature for 2 weeks now and it's not up on their site. Has anyone else gone though this? I would download on my Kindle but already have the first 3 in paperback already.
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Old December 3 2013, 03:37 AM   #101
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It was out on the shelves in my local B&N a couple of days before the official release date.

I would recommend calling the store itself and speaking to the booksellers there. If they have any copies in the store they can put one on hold for you so you can come in and pick it up.
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Old December 3 2013, 05:25 AM   #102
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That wasn't moustache-twirling on Ishan's part. That was him proving how much he believes himself the hero of his own story: as much as Riker and Akaar and Picard and Bashir all do.
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Old December 3 2013, 05:59 AM   #103
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Was there a point to Riker's little face to face with the Pres-pro towards the end?
I had the same thought. I re-read the scene, thinking I'd skipped a paragraph or something. Riker said he was going there with something specific... then it was like he forgot, and just got into chest thumping instead.
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Old December 3 2013, 12:36 PM   #104
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...Atia's dialogue reminded me very much of Spartacus: Blood and Guts - is the author a fan, by any chance?
Atia was the name of an amazing character in the HBO series Rome, which is where I thought the homage was coming from (as Atia in TPC is from Magna Roma). Of course, her manner of speaking in Rome is not really like the way Atia from TPC speaks...
You're both right. Atia's name is from the character in Rome and I modeled her speech pattern on those from Spartacus.
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Old December 3 2013, 07:13 PM   #105
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It also appears that Riker will remain an Admiral.
Is that really a bad thing?

It'd be nice to see Star Trek move beyond that tired old "You can only make a difference if you're a captain on a starship!" trope.
The novels have up-ended the TV 'you can disobey orders whenever and still come out fine' with Reyes. I was amazed when he stayed gone. I do wonder if Dax will get back her command, though.
I have nothing against Riker but I do not think he deserved a two grade promotion after such a short time at the rank of Captain and all the years he spent as XO.
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