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View Poll Results: Who is Your Least Favorite Flag Officer?
Commodore Jose Mendez ("The Menagerie") 0 0%
Commodore Stone ("Court Martial") 2 6.25%
Commodore Matt Decker ("The Doomsday Machine") 3 9.38%
Commodore Robert Wesley ("The Ultimate Computer") 3 9.38%
Admiral Heihachiro Nogura ("The Motion Picture") 1 3.13%
Admiral James T. Kirk ("The Motion Picture" - "The Voyage Home") 2 6.25%
Admiral Harry Morrow ("The Search for Spock") 5 15.63%
Admiral Lance Cartwright ("The Voyage Home," "The Undiscovered Country") 6 18.75%
Admiral Mark Jameson ("Too Short a Season") 5 15.63%
Admiral Andrea Brand ("The First Duty") 0 0%
Admiral Alynna Nechayev (TNG/DS9) 6 18.75%
Admiral Chekote ("The Circle," "Gambit") 0 0%
Admiral Erik Pressman ("The Pegasus") 9 28.13%
Admiral Toddman ("The Die is Cast") 0 0%
Admiral James Leyton ("Homefront," "Paradise Lost") 2 6.25%
Admiral Jeremiah Hayes (TNG/VOY) 0 0%
Admiral Matthew Dougherty ("Insurrection") 12 37.50%
Admiral Kathryn Janeway ("Nemesis") 6 18.75%
Admiral Christopher Pike (nuTrek) 2 6.25%
Admiral Alexander Marcus ("Star Trek Into Darkness") 10 31.25%
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Old November 19 2013, 03:03 AM   #31
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Re: Least Favorite Flag Officer

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At a minimum, busting Tarses' balls like she did was an overreaction. WWII military records show us that the bloodline does not define the person. We had plenty of military personnel with Japanese, Italian, and German parentage who served honorably and earned medals for their service. So why can't Starfleet have a half-Romulan in the service?
I agree with you that Admiral Satie was being a jackass, but mainly the problem was not that Tarses was 1/4 Romulan; it's that he LIED about it on his application (and before the court). If he had just come right out and admitted the truth from the get-go, I doubt Starfleet would have had a problem with it. As it stands, however...I mean, I'm sure Tarses is a nice guy and a good crewman, but let's face it, there are certain times and places where you just don't lie, and this is one of them. You don't lie on applications, and you don't commit perjury in open court. Anyone who could lie at times like that, could lie at any other time as well.

Again, I'm not excusing Satie's treatment of Tarses, just trying to put forth a little perspective here.
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Old November 19 2013, 03:31 AM   #32
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Re: Least Favorite Flag Officer

^You're right that Tarses was wrong to lie about his heritage on his application and in court. However, Satie was less interested in charging him with perjury than she was trying to use his dishonesty as proof that he was involved in a conspiracy to destroy the Enterprise. I can understand why she'd be more suspicious of Tarses, but to devote as much effort as she did to every last detail of his life merely because she believed he was a saboteur was a waste of time and resources. Hardly the sort of behavior one would expect from a flag officer.

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Old November 19 2013, 09:28 AM   #33
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Janeway as admiral. Should be a commodore like the rest of the incompetents.
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Old November 19 2013, 12:38 PM   #34
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Why no Komack?
Surely everyone hates Komack.
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Old November 21 2013, 05:34 PM   #35
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Haven't seen some but of the ones I did Pressman and Marcus seemed the least justified and indeed dislikable.
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