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Old November 17 2013, 09:59 PM   #1
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Things that are different in Trek history

From Star Trek '09, we know that the Beastie Boys exist in the past of at least the nuVerse. So, it occurred to me: Did they do "Intergalactic" at all, and if they did, what did they say in their version of it where our version says "Like a pinch on the neck from Mr. Spock"?

Let's spread that out further. I figure the band T'Pau might have been The Lazers (their original name). Patrick Stewart might be recalled as the actor who played Professor X (provided we ignore the various crossovers that imply that the X-Men exist in the Star Trek universe) and Shatner would be remembered for ... Rescue 911? T.J. Hooker? What was the name of the first American space shuttle there? One might presume it was different, since it being named Enterprise in our world was the result of a Trek fandom letter writing campaign....

What else is different or missing?
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Old November 17 2013, 10:09 PM   #2
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the first shuttle built would have been named Constitution
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Old November 17 2013, 10:19 PM   #3
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We have so many different things, right out of my head, Transparant aluminium, reason for the missing of certain people (amelia earhart, VOYAGER the 37) The millenium gate (VOY, 11:59)
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Old November 17 2013, 10:41 PM   #4
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No Eugenics Wars, for one. Also no mention of the 1996 disaster involving the 29th century ship. We've not gone far enough into the twenty first century to see if the government develops sanctuaries for people who've lost their homes or can't find employment.

Voyager 6 was launched, so we'll have to see if it eventually returns around the same time that V'Ger is supposed to show up.

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Old November 17 2013, 10:46 PM   #5
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I don't mean different HERE. I mean different THERE. Arex has the idea. The crew of the Enterprise would never listen to a song called "Star Trekkin'" by The Firm from way back in 1987 - it wouldn't exist. Or here's a biggie: What shows did the version of GENE RODDENBERRY that exists *inside* the history of the Trek universe make?
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Old November 17 2013, 10:47 PM   #6
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^ In the Trekverse, a person named Gene Roddenberry does exist, but he is the Starfleet Chief of Staff in the 24th century. His name pops up on a fair amount of starship dedication plaques.
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Old November 17 2013, 10:56 PM   #7
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^ In the Trekverse, a person named Gene Roddenberry does exist, but he is the Starfleet Chief of Staff in the 24th century. His name pops up on a fair amount of starship dedication plaques.
... and presumably he is a descendant of the Gene Roddenberry who was famed for his cult hit show "Genesis II" back in the 20th century?
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Old November 18 2013, 12:03 AM   #8
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Voyager 6 was launched, so we'll have to see if it eventually returns around the same time that V'Ger is supposed to show up.
There was no Voyager 6 in our own timeline. The program ended after Voyager 2.
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Old November 18 2013, 12:07 AM   #9
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Re: Things that are different in Trek history

Cool idea for a thread...

We know from TMP and the Enterprise credits that they *did* have a shuttle named Enterprise, but we don't really know if it was the first one or not. Obviously the name was chosen for some other reason, though. And its history seems to somewhat differ from our own history's OV-101, since the Enterprise credits show its name painted in the same location as on later shuttles, where our OV-101's name never appeared. Perhaps the Trek version of the space shuttle Enterprise was actually space-worthy? I believe NASA's original plan was to refit OV-101 to be space-worthy, so maybe that happened in the Trekverse.

Inside the Trek universe, perhaps there was a popular science fiction TV show in the late '60s known as Galaxy Quest...
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Old November 18 2013, 01:28 AM   #10
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Lieut. Arex wrote: View Post
the first shuttle built would have been named Constitution
Well, we know that a Space Shuttle Enterprise did exist in the Star Trek universe past.
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Old November 18 2013, 03:00 AM   #11
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^Right, but the point is that, without the influence of Star Trek, the first shuttle prototype really was intended to be named Constitution (what with it being developed during the bicentennial). So in Trek's history, it was Constitution, and Enterprise was a flight-capable shuttle, which it wasn't in our history.
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Old November 18 2013, 05:05 AM   #12
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I wonder if they have Galaxy Quest?
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Old November 18 2013, 05:18 AM   #13
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^Don't know. But I'm guessing that Jeri Ryan's known for her roles on Boston Public and Dark Skies rather than Voyager. Likewise, Stephen Collins and Catherine Hicks have only 7th Heaven in common, and Leonard Nimoy disappeared from the public eye after Mission Impossible ended. The Trek universe has probably never heard of George Takei or Walter Koenig.

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Old November 18 2013, 05:26 AM   #14
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^ Nimoy's big break was Star Trek, so it's doubtful he would have even gotten Mission: Impossible. In an alternate universe, Martin Landau might have stayed put.
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Old November 18 2013, 05:29 AM   #15
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the first shuttle built would have been named Constitution
Nah, it was called the Protector.

Damn,Questers or is that Questies?
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