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Old November 17 2013, 12:14 AM   #16
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Re: Lost in Space coming to Blu-ray?

Yeah, I don't think I like that if they are zooming in to give a full screen picture on HD TVs.
I wonder if MeTV and any other channels that show it will get the HD versions? I just started watching it off and on Me since I got a HDTV earlier this year. They do show the remastered STTOS episodes, and the original longer versions of the M*A*S*H episodes that are on the DVDs.
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Old November 17 2013, 12:18 AM   #17
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The 1.78 stuff was interesting, it didn't look like they were cropping the image as there was more information on the sides.
No, it was definitely just zoomed in to crop off the top and bottom. In the first instance, look at the bins on the walls on the far left of the screen. In both the original and the modified footage, they're on the edge of the frame. And less of the overhead light fixture is visible. In the next example, there's clearly less of the top of the frame visible (the rivets around the door are closer to the top edge). There may be a bit more showing to the right of frame -- the background guard at the edge of frame is farther from the edge in the dishonestly labeled "full frame" version -- but that could just be due to a camera move at the point of the change.

This isn't an improvement. It's no better than old-style pan-and-scan, cropping off pieces of the image to fit an arbitrary frame. It's wrong. Something which was made in 1:33 should be shown in 1:33, period. There is no legitimate excuse for deleting portions of the original image.
I was focusing on the sides when I first watched it but you're right it is cropped though there does seem to be more horizontal information as well. But maybe that's due to the camera movement as you suggest.

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Old November 17 2013, 12:21 AM   #18
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Re: Lost in Space coming to Blu-ray?

The TNG Blu-Rays have slightly more horizontal information on them than previous transfers; perhaps a similar situation is happening here?

(Although I don't know enough about the subject to comment with much authority).
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Old November 17 2013, 01:48 AM   #19
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I think that the original film images probably did usually have a bit of extra height and width compared to the TV frame. After all, back then, the size and horizontal and vertical positioning of the image had to be adjusted manually with knobs, so it probably helped to have a bit of leeway. In fact, TV screens even had rounded corners back then, so depending on how large you set the picture, bits of it might be cropped anyway. (I think. I remember the edges of the image being a bit inward of the edges of the screen, but I'm not sure if that was the maximum possible image size the TV was capable of. Wow, it's been so long since I had to worry about such things.)
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Old December 24 2013, 01:06 PM   #20
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Re: Lost in Space coming to Blu-ray?

Just stumbled across this project by accident yesterday and I must say, I'm hooked. I don't own the DVD sets, but wanted to get the show for an eternity. This remastering effort looks very promising. (Even though it is done by HTV Illuminate, who rather infamously were responsible for the remastering of the second season of TNG on blu-ray.) Does anyone know whether this project already got the green light? How long might it be until an actual release?
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Old January 1 2014, 12:18 AM   #21
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Wow, pretty big improvement.
Sounds like a GREAT IDEA!!!
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