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Old November 15 2013, 09:24 PM   #46
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I think Kate Mulgrew would have made a fine Borg Queen.
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Old November 15 2013, 09:43 PM   #47
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She would add "Do it!"
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Old November 15 2013, 11:09 PM   #48
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TOS was the 'Kirk, Spock, and McCoy Show'...
This comes up on here from time to time, so I just had to satisfy my curiosity and see what that might look like!

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Old November 15 2013, 11:27 PM   #49
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Or Deep Space Nine as The Cisco Kid-- "Oh, Sisko!" "Oh, Odo!"
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Old November 15 2013, 11:29 PM   #50
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I think that TOS was far more the Kirk, Spock and McCoy show than VOY was the KJ, 7 and EMH show though.
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Old November 19 2013, 06:18 AM   #51
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Absolutely. TOS focused heavily on Kirk, Spock and McCoy, to the point that every ep focused on one of them, and even McCoy was secondary to Kirk and Spock.
All the other shows gave attention every now and then to every member of the main cast, which I think made for a stronger show with better developed casts.
But I can't deny Seven did dominate the series once she came on. She was popular, and there were a lot of great interesting stories around her, but she did become a quick fix to all their problems.
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Old November 19 2013, 06:28 AM   #52
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. . .she did become a quick fix to all their problems.
So Seven of Nine = Wesley Crusher + boobs + better dialogue?
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Old November 19 2013, 06:28 AM   #53
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I used to have a behind the scenes book, where there are all these letters between the production staff which complained that Spock being more famous and beloved than Kirk was a problem that needed to be dealt to lickity split.
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Old November 19 2013, 06:44 AM   #54
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I guess this happens with characters, often unpredictably. Remember how Happy Days became dominated by Fonzie?
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Old November 19 2013, 07:00 AM   #55
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So in this post on ENT someone gives the totals of all lines for all shows. I asked them where they got the figures from.

hmm.. now I have to ask them what the 'captain' thing is.. oh apparently it is lines spoken about the captain? gah.

These were the VOY ones posted:

Total Voyager Lines 68322
Janeway 11921 (17.45%)
captain 2993 (4.38%)
Chakotay 6251 (9.15%)
EMH 6068 (8.88%)
Doctor 1119 (1.64%)
Paris 5617 (8.22%)
Tuvok 5444 (7.97%)
Seven 5041 (7.38%)
Kim 4761 (6.97%)
Harry 508 (0.74%)
Torres 4579 (6.70%)
Neelix 3852 (5.64%)
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Old November 19 2013, 07:05 AM   #56
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Captain Ducane?

Braxtons second who gave himself a field promotion after he had to jail his superior.
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Old November 19 2013, 07:15 AM   #57
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Kes seems conspicuously absent in that list.
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Old November 19 2013, 07:17 AM   #58
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Hopefully the poster will say where all this stuff comes from.
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Old November 19 2013, 07:53 AM   #59
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Well let's see, many of the audience didn't like Harry, didn't like Neelix, didn't like Kes, didn't like Chakotay. Were on the fence about Tuvok and Paris.
Nobody hardly talks about Torres.
So who did the writers real have left to write about that the audience did like?
So yeah, Seven had to make up where everyone else fell short.
Plus, when you do a marketing campagine that puts her image everywhere to get an audience to tune in, then as a studio you wanna try and get your money back. That means giving folk what they tuned in for. Her.

As Robert Picardo said: "If putting her image everywhere helps me keep a job, then I'm all for it!"
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Old November 19 2013, 08:00 AM   #60
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I think that TOS was far more the Kirk, Spock and McCoy show than VOY was the KJ, 7 and EMH show though.
There are only 3 names in the opening credits of TOS because they are the only stars of the show. The others are in the closing credits and were only meant as a supporting cast. It was only due to fans and films that they also got starring roles.
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