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Old December 5 2013, 07:10 PM   #346
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It really makes you wonder what the director was thinking.

(then again, Leonard Nimoy himself had Spock laughing and wrestling Kirk in the water at the end of STIV)
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Old December 5 2013, 07:19 PM   #347
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Wasn't there a female Vulcan medical officer seen in Caretaker?
Yes, she's a nurse, and we're told in Caretaker she dies when the original doctor and so many other crew members die.
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Old August 21 2015, 01:28 PM   #348
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Why was Harry Kim never promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade by Janeway while he was in the DQ? Couldn't she have issued a field promotion or something? I know she messed around with Tom Paris' rank a few times. And Picard made Wesley a full Ensign without him even attending the Academy.

It seemed like Kim saved the day quite a few times; I can't imagine it taking more than that to pass the rank of Ensign (esp. since he was Valedictorian of his Starfleet Academy class).

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I gotta say Tom was her personal reclamation project for her old boss, Admiral Paris. What better way to get that promotion than to get his wayward son into shape? That and him being her lizard baby daddy.

Kim was just the guy continually failing to get into 7's pants. He's lucky he wasn't demoted for failing Starfllet's principle mission, to Go where No Man Has Gone Before.
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Old August 21 2015, 01:34 PM   #349
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I went back and looked at all the old threads in the Voyager forum. Yes I was bored...anyway for someone who didn't do a whole lot Ensign Kim seemed to have a LOT of threads dedicated to him.
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Old August 21 2015, 01:46 PM   #350
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I resent my younger self for seeing promise in the lad.
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Old August 21 2015, 10:54 PM   #351
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I wonder if Janeway will think the same in 20 years. I'm assuming the Timeless disaster propelled Kim into adulthood but if that doesn't happen he may be a pampered Starfleet baby forever.
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Old August 21 2015, 11:01 PM   #352
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Kathryn is going to be followed and monitored for the rest of her life by the Department of Temporal Affairs.

If she even thinks about driving a Starship into some sun, they'll pop-up and s... Hey? Wouldn't it have been a little cool if in Scientific Method the ship had gone back in time too when Janeway charged a star to shake off Voyager's cling-ons.
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Old August 22 2015, 11:59 AM   #353
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The time to have promoted Kim was when she demoted Paris, it would have changed the Kim/Paris dynamic somewhat and could have led to some interesting stories but alas another wasted opportunity.
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Old August 22 2015, 12:03 PM   #354
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Surely the time to promote Kim was when she promoted Ayala (Maquis, non-Starfleet past) to Lieutenant.
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Old August 22 2015, 12:46 PM   #355
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The time to have promoted Kim was when she demoted Paris, it would have changed the Kim/Paris dynamic somewhat and could have led to some interesting stories but alas another wasted opportunity.
Just once I would have liked to have heard Kim tell Paris "That's an order!"

Janeway liked Kim well enough but Paris was her special...pet project.
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Old August 22 2015, 01:08 PM   #356
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Because they served together in the olden days, a fruitful relationship between Owen Paris and Kathryn Janeway is not impossible. Paris coming home one day to tell his wife "Raise this" might be however.
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Old August 23 2015, 09:42 PM   #357
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There were several occasions when a promotion would have been appropriate, but let's face it. Janeway would have promoted Naomi, Seven, the Borg kids, Miral, Q Junior, and the salamander babies to Lieutenant before ever promoting Harry.
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Old August 28 2015, 06:53 AM   #358
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Harry turned down Seven's advances when she came on to him. That's why he's still an Ensign. No initiative.
I have a feeling Janeway would have charged him with pedophilia, arguing that 7 was mentally a petulant child, and decided that execution wasn't such a bad idea afterall. Maybe Suder didn't warrant it, but the universe hates Harry.

Hey, Paris wants to play Space Enviro terrorist and gets a temporary demotion, Harry sleeps with someone, gets space herpes and an official reprimand for all his troubles.
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Old August 28 2015, 07:00 AM   #359
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Possible Nepotism. Janeway served under Admiral Paris for while. So, when Tommy Boy fracked up and was demoted and re-promoted, while Harry remained Ensign.
Possible theory: Janeway is Admiral Paris's illegitimate love child and he told her in private when she served under him and also tried to make up for lost time. She also got fast tracked for promotions. In return, she decided as a favor to her father to help her wayward brother.

It also makes Threshold just more extra special.
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Old August 28 2015, 07:09 AM   #360
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Unless there was some forced maturation or hoodwinks with time... Kathy probably wasn't pregnant in the 4th grade.
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