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Voyager There's coffee in this forum!

View Poll Results: Other than the original which is the best Star Trek?
Next Generation 7 16.28%
Deep Space Nine 19 44.19%
Voyager 15 34.88%
Enterprise 2 4.65%
They did not let Enterprise develope Enough? 0 0%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old November 10 2013, 08:12 AM   #31
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Re: I don't think Voyager gets the right credit

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. . .I was going to paste a thought on Star Trek and the "Big Bang Theory" tomorrow. But I guess that would be wasted here.
I think "Big Bang Theory" sometimes enters discussions around here, and some of the other sub-forums as well. I'm not qualified to discuss it though.
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Old November 10 2013, 08:14 AM   #32
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Neither am I, I am fail. I'm sure we have at least one resident who has watched all of it though.
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Old November 10 2013, 08:17 AM   #33
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Voyager forum does sometimes turn into the Mad Tea Party of TrekBBS.
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Old November 10 2013, 08:22 AM   #34
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Re: I don't think Voyager gets the right credit

Even if the OP doesn't come back, which would be a shame, we will always have his poll.

Vote! Twice!

And yeah I could say VOY doesn't get enough credit but I know the truth. Enterprise saved VOY from being the ugly sister of Star Trek. Far more vitriol aimed there, also unwarranted. But don't worry ENT I'm sure JJ will turn that around for you!
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Old November 10 2013, 02:47 PM   #35
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Re: I don't think Voyager gets the right credit

Oynaq, you're asking this question on the wrong website; the TrekBBS was founded by and continues to be populated in large part by Niners. I will be super pleased if one day Voyager gets the credit it's due here. TOS is always my sentimental favorite; it's part of me. But VOY is my favorite modern Trek.
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Old November 10 2013, 05:15 PM   #36
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Re: I don't think Voyager gets the right credit

If you want an answer for flat-out "best", I wouldn't be able to choose. However VOY is the most special series to me since it was my first Trek series and the one I also tend to re-watch and read the novels for the most. I know VOY as a kind of old friend better than I know any other series. I love it. But I cannot choose a "best". They are all great.
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Old November 10 2013, 06:59 PM   #37
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I just got finished watching all 7 seasons of Voyager. Now I am a BIG original fan and that can never be replaced. But when I watched Voyager to me it was the apex of what the Next Generation and Deep Space Nine was building up to. Janeway is not my favorite Captain, but I have no reason to talk bad about her.

The story lines and crew developed into so much a stronger to the "star trek" theme. I don't think they get the credit they deserve.

What do you think?
I didn't really get the sense that TNG and DSN were building up to an apex of any kind. Nor in my opinion was VOY the apex of ST as a whole, if anything DSN was apex of Star Trek.

So out of curisoity what apex are you referring to?

But one of the critisims levelled at both VOY and ENT is that they failed to live up their premise. S4 of ENT is generally regarded as one if it's best season, it was also the closest in terms of narrative to it's premise or it's percieved premise the creation of the Federation.

VOY's premises as sold was a ship on it's in own with limited resources, what some felt they got was TNG-lite (aka TNG 2.0). Any limitations the writers put on themsevles were more often or not queitly dropped and forgotten about. To me that shows a lack of respect for your audiance, now of course VOY isn't the only show guilty of that.

Now of course we all have our likes and dislikes, and the order in which we watched then ST shows can affected how we percieve them. For example if VOY is someones introduction to trek they might find it new, but for some of the older fans they might find it dull and repetative (i.e you've used that plot before several times in TOS and TNG, and done it better).

Each of the ST shows has its good points and it's bad points.
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Old November 11 2013, 06:06 AM   #38
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Which movie haven't you seen?
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

I also only recently saw The Undiscovered Country (watching it as an appendix to my Voyager [re]watch-through).
This movie has a few good lines and we get to see a bit more of McCoy's backstory, but otherwise it's crap.

It's also the only ST movie I ever considered walking out of the theatre over, as I found it that bad.
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Old November 11 2013, 06:41 AM   #39
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I love that movie.

Have I said so in this thread already? Probably
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Old November 11 2013, 08:58 AM   #40
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Yes... you have. Other threads too. You also have a quote from that movie in your signature. All you need to do is change your avatar to Sybok with Janeway's head to complete the picture.
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Old November 11 2013, 09:03 AM   #41
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No way man, I'm slashing Janeway with Caithlin Dar. For Galactic Peace!

I'll take St. John Talbot for myself though. I'm going to reform him against his will and clean him up and improve him. It will be glorious.
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Old November 11 2013, 09:38 AM   #42
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Ick.

Have Janeway doing the fan dance, or sashaying around the Bridge like Uhura did when she brought Scotty his lunch bag (those foil bags remind me of the ones you get at A&W when you order takeout Teen Burgers).
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Old November 11 2013, 10:23 AM   #43
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I think it was very sweet she bought him his lunch.

And really, I think they make a better couple than her and Spock.

(I feel like I should have whispered that..)
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Old November 11 2013, 10:27 AM   #44
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It seemed more genuine, less forced and less.... teeny.
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Old November 11 2013, 10:35 AM   #45
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She was probably looking after his health because Scotty was a fat old drunk.

Jokes on her.

Montgomery probably tippled her life expectancy and he's still alive and kicking.
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