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Old December 14 2013, 01:40 AM   #91
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I want a director announced soon. Development hell is not a place I want to see a Trek movie lost in.
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Old December 14 2013, 01:44 AM   #92
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I want a director announced soon. Development hell is not a place I want to see a Trek movie lost in.
If it isn't released until mid-2016, they likely have a good year before they have to settle on a director. Though I imagine they'll have one signed sometime early next year.
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Old December 14 2013, 02:08 AM   #93
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Justin Lin's name has been bandied about, though I don't know how likely that is (he's already slated to direct a Bourne Sequel coming out in 2015). He has the perfect skill set for what they're doing, though.
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Old December 14 2013, 12:29 PM   #94
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^Perhaps an adaptation of Diane Carey's The Great Starship Race?
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Old December 14 2013, 02:05 PM   #95
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I just remember when Aliens 3 was directed by someone who hadn't directed a feature film before.
Yeah but if you looked at his music video pedigree, Fincher was still a pretty decent choice. That franchise has always been more about the directors than most (not talking AvsP stuff!), which is one reason why they all look a bit unique from one another, with only some similarities carrying over.

Cuaron is off the table for TREK too (not likely he ever was going to do it anyway), as he has sworn off space movies for good after GRAVITY.

I still think they need a modern equivalent to Meyer, somebody who isn't a big VFX guy, but a writer/director who does character/Character/CHARACTER. In other words, the guy who made THE STATION AGENT and THE VISITOR, who some of you may know as an actor (he played the total scumsucking rotten journalist who wound up covered in glory in the last season of THE WIRE.)
Yes, please. Enough with the relentless action set pieces, more character work, let the story breathe, let the suspense build up.
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Old December 14 2013, 02:46 PM   #96
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I just remember when Aliens 3 was directed by someone who hadn't directed a feature film before.
Yeah but if you looked at his music video pedigree, Fincher was still a pretty decent choice. That franchise has always been more about the directors than most (not talking AvsP stuff!), which is one reason why they all look a bit unique from one another, with only some similarities carrying over.

Cuaron is off the table for TREK too (not likely he ever was going to do it anyway), as he has sworn off space movies for good after GRAVITY.

I still think they need a modern equivalent to Meyer, somebody who isn't a big VFX guy, but a writer/director who does character/Character/CHARACTER. In other words, the guy who made THE STATION AGENT and THE VISITOR, who some of you may know as an actor (he played the total scumsucking rotten journalist who wound up covered in glory in the last season of THE WIRE.)
Yes, please. Enough with the relentless action set pieces, more character work, let the story breathe, let the suspense build up.
More of what's already been delivered in ST'09 and STID for me please, more of the superbly realised action and brilliantly developed original series characterisation - e.g. an exciting, enthralling movie.

Please, please don't put something akin to "The Inner Light" on the screen to bore the audience to tears, kill the box office and put the franchise in the grave.
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Old December 14 2013, 02:56 PM   #97
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Yeah but if you looked at his music video pedigree, Fincher was still a pretty decent choice. That franchise has always been more about the directors than most (not talking AvsP stuff!), which is one reason why they all look a bit unique from one another, with only some similarities carrying over.

Cuaron is off the table for TREK too (not likely he ever was going to do it anyway), as he has sworn off space movies for good after GRAVITY.

I still think they need a modern equivalent to Meyer, somebody who isn't a big VFX guy, but a writer/director who does character/Character/CHARACTER. In other words, the guy who made THE STATION AGENT and THE VISITOR, who some of you may know as an actor (he played the total scumsucking rotten journalist who wound up covered in glory in the last season of THE WIRE.)
Yes, please. Enough with the relentless action set pieces, more character work, let the story breathe, let the suspense build up.
More of what's already been delivered in ST'09 and STID for me please, more of the superbly realised action and brilliantly developed original series characterisation - e.g. an exciting, enthralling movie.

Please, please don't put something akin to "The Inner Light" on the screen to bore the audience to tears, kill the box office and put the franchise in the grave.
If you waste 200 million on an "Inner Light" type of story, so that is actually fails at the box office, something is wrong with you.

If you do it for 20 million, you don't kill the franchise.
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Old December 14 2013, 03:41 PM   #98
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Yeah but if you looked at his music video pedigree, Fincher was still a pretty decent choice. That franchise has always been more about the directors than most (not talking AvsP stuff!), which is one reason why they all look a bit unique from one another, with only some similarities carrying over.

Cuaron is off the table for TREK too (not likely he ever was going to do it anyway), as he has sworn off space movies for good after GRAVITY.

I still think they need a modern equivalent to Meyer, somebody who isn't a big VFX guy, but a writer/director who does character/Character/CHARACTER. In other words, the guy who made THE STATION AGENT and THE VISITOR, who some of you may know as an actor (he played the total scumsucking rotten journalist who wound up covered in glory in the last season of THE WIRE.)
Yes, please. Enough with the relentless action set pieces, more character work, let the story breathe, let the suspense build up.
More of what's already been delivered in ST'09 and STID for me please, more of the superbly realised action and brilliantly developed original series characterisation - e.g. an exciting, enthralling movie.

Please, please don't put something akin to "The Inner Light" on the screen to bore the audience to tears, kill the box office and put the franchise in the grave.
Amen!
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Old December 14 2013, 06:00 PM   #99
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Forget about "The Inner Light", I'm talking "The Visitor"! Kidding aside, I don't think the Michael Bay brand of relentless action with characters shouting "GO! GO! GO!" every five to ten minutes will work if they keep doing it over and over with nuTrek. You can only get away with that before audiences gets bored, and even though STID delivered on that, it still made less than the first film in the US, when many expected it to do much better (and hold your horses, I'm not calling it a failure at the box office, but domestically speaking it is a bit of a step down, and sequels generally do better). That being said, it doesn't need to keep doing the same kind of action spectacle. They can easily tone it down and still drawn in audiences if the story and characters are strong enough. A good example of a contemporary action film is SKYFALL, which probably only has a quarter of the action STID has and yet it did two times the box office that the latter ended up with. Why shouldn't Trek tone it down the action? Seeing Kirk fire a phaser at a bunch of Klingons isn't gonna drawn in more audiences, it's the story. Adjusted for inflation, THE VOYAGE HOME is still the biggest Trek has ever been and it's probably the most unconventional Trek film ever. And no, I'm not asking for more Whales, I'm just saying that a film series cannot sustain if it keeps doing the same thing over and over, as it will just get stale over time.

Still, the remark on "The Inner Light" is cute. It didn't win a Hugo Award because it "bored audiences to tears", heck, it certain moved people enough to get teary eyed. It isn't even my favorite episode, but I can't deny it's effective. Isn't that what we want audiences to feel about Trek anyway? To be surprised that a Trek movie actually engaged them that deeply? Would you think audiences would be bored to tears over watching "The City on the Edge of Forever" too?

But maybe you're right. Poor Gene. So much for your peaceful vision of the future, idiot. People don't want that crap anymore. People want shooting!
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Old December 14 2013, 07:33 PM   #100
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Gene's vision - Money and sex. And not necessarily in that order...
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Old December 14 2013, 07:51 PM   #101
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Adjusted for inflation, THE VOYAGE HOME is still the biggest Trek has ever been...
No, it's not. Taking inflation into account, Star Trek (2009) has the highest domestic gross of any Trek film and Star Trek Into Darkness has the highest worldwide gross of any Trek film. Star Trek: The Motion Picture lies in second in both domestic and worldwide box office in adjusted terms.
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Old December 14 2013, 07:58 PM   #102
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I stand corrected on that front.
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Old December 14 2013, 08:01 PM   #103
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Gene's vision - Money and sex. And not necessarily in that order...
Gotta say, it was nice to show Kirk with two alien gals.
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Old December 14 2013, 10:42 PM   #104
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Gene's vision - Money and sex. And not necessarily in that order...
Gotta say, it was nice to show Kirk with two alien gals.
...and even if it was off screen, I'm sure at least one of them was shouting out other others' names over and over again (reference to current discussion in the "Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof should not Return" thread.).
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Old December 14 2013, 10:53 PM   #105
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I can hear them:

"Oh god oh god!"
"Of course I am"

More Shatner than Pine.
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