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Old November 8 2013, 08:32 PM   #61
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Re: How long should the Federation last?

Really, I think it would be awesome if the utopian society showed some flaws that the heroes couldn't solve weekly. That's were good storytelling comes from.
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Old November 8 2013, 09:56 PM   #62
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Re: How long should the Federation last?

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Sisko maneuvered a sworn enemy of the federation into fighting (and dying) for the federation's cause,why would Starfleet, or the council, disapprove?
I agree with their decision, except they act kind of funny about these things.

They could have remained silent about the phased cloaking device too, but instead they confessed it right in front of the Romulans.

And yet during the Dominion war, when things got desparate, they had no problem making desperate, questionable decisions.

Isn't that what happened in Star Wars?

So this ultimately leads to the question; could the same thing that happened to the Republic happen to the Federation?

Admiral Leyton manipulated Sisko, Odo and the President into declaring martial law on earth with him in charge. And Sisko and Odo ain't fools.

It's funny because it's almost the exact same situation that happened in Star Wars.

And Palaptine played it beautifuly. He used fear and paranoia to convince the senate to grant him more law making power. He eventually had enough to declare himself emperor.

From democracy to an imperial dictatorship --all legally.

This time the Jedi and "hero effect" didn't matter--he had all the power and he had it legally. They were the outlaws.
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Old November 8 2013, 10:07 PM   #63
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Re: How long should the Federation last?

Isn't that what happened in Star Wars?
No. They let their dissatisfaction with the bureaucratic process become so intense, that they turned power over to an autocratic leader and gave him complete control over a military that lacked its own will.
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Old November 8 2013, 10:24 PM   #64
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Re: How long should the Federation last?

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Really, I think it would be awesome if the utopian society showed some flaws that the heroes couldn't solve weekly. That's were good storytelling comes from.
Then, how about a Star Trek story that deals with a new planet admitted to the Federation (after it's already done, not Bajor), and the adjustments that that world, and the existing Federation members would naturally have to make as a result?

And, to the question, the Federation will last as long as it keeps Janeway in coffee and Picard in Earl Grey. I can only imagine the disaster that would result if they ran out.....
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Old November 8 2013, 10:40 PM   #65
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Re: How long should the Federation last?

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Being fictional, the Federation will last as long as the writers want it to.
And what if the writer disagree?

What then Mr. Laser beam, what then?


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