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Old November 1 2013, 09:03 PM   #16
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Re: Khan's motivation for going to Kronos?

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He thought his people had been killed by Marcus, there's no chance he'd still be allied with him at the time. He only knew his people were still alive when he heard how many torpedoes the Enterprise had brought to the Klingon border.
Unless he was lying about believing his people were dead. He certainly was doing his best to make Kirk doubt who was right. Marcus and Khan may have been twisting the truth right to the end, trying to manipulate each other and the rest of the world in general into giving them what they were actually after.

The only other explanation that makes any sense to me is that he wanted to start the war as a form of revenge, like you say. But even that seems weak to me - it implies that he's given up being an actually important factor in this world. Unless he thinks war will give him the opportunity to secretly steal some ships and build his own empire? But even an augment can't crew an entire fleet by himself.
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Old November 2 2013, 05:17 AM   #17
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Old November 2 2013, 01:52 PM   #18
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I think that it should have been explained better why Khan went to Kronos and why Marcus kept Khans people in the torpedoes. I don't think the answer is obvious or even logical.
I still liked the movie but to me this is its biggest flaw. Not the Caitians, not the call to PrimeSpock, not Carol's underwear.
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Old November 2 2013, 03:30 PM   #19
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Realizing that Carol's underwear is not the biggest flaw of the movie is the first step on the path to enlightenment.
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Old November 2 2013, 03:32 PM   #20
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I think that it should have been explained better why Khan went to Kronos and why Marcus kept Khans people in the torpedoes. I don't think the answer is obvious or even logical.
I still liked the movie but to me this is its biggest flaw. Not the Caitians, not the call to PrimeSpock, not Carol's underwear.
Also why they get and accept 72 torpedoes to kill one guy running around on a planet.

They wouldn't have fired 72 cruise missiles at Osama bin Laden, just 1.
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Old November 2 2013, 03:47 PM   #21
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Re: Khan's motivation for going to Kronos?

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I think that it should have been explained better why Khan went to Kronos and why Marcus kept Khans people in the torpedoes. I don't think the answer is obvious or even logical.
I still liked the movie but to me this is its biggest flaw. Not the Caitians, not the call to PrimeSpock, not Carol's underwear.
Also why they get and accept 72 torpedoes to kill one guy running around on a planet.

They wouldn't have fired 72 cruise missiles at Osama bin Laden, just 1.
Cause they weren't coming back. Marcus had the Enterprise sabotaged. They fire one torp, maybe a two, and their asses are covered up with Klingon cruisers and blown straight to hell. It was a one way mission that was meant to get Marcus his war and clean up his mess all in one shot.
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Old November 2 2013, 06:20 PM   #22
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Re: Khan's motivation for going to Kronos?

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I think that it should have been explained better why Khan went to Kronos and why Marcus kept Khans people in the torpedoes. I don't think the answer is obvious or even logical.
I still liked the movie but to me this is its biggest flaw. Not the Caitians, not the call to PrimeSpock, not Carol's underwear.
It's possible we haven't seen the end of this Khan story, more details of previous events may be forthcoming in the next installment providing the producers intended ID to be the beginning of a larger arc.

Yes I know the ending of ID, having a year of time pass since the Marcus incident - beginning the 5 year mission, would seem to suggest otherwise but that could be misdirection.
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Old November 2 2013, 07:54 PM   #23
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Re: Khan's motivation for going to Kronos?

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I think that it should have been explained better why Khan went to Kronos and why Marcus kept Khans people in the torpedoes. I don't think the answer is obvious or even logical.
I still liked the movie but to me this is its biggest flaw. Not the Caitians, not the call to PrimeSpock, not Carol's underwear.
Also why they get and accept 72 torpedoes to kill one guy running around on a planet.

They wouldn't have fired 72 cruise missiles at Osama bin Laden, just 1.
Bin Laden wasn't a genetically enhanced superman, and Pakistan didn't have kilometer-tall buildings.
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