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Old October 31 2013, 11:41 AM   #16
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I would like to marry that man.

"This is my husband, Captain Kirk."
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Old October 31 2013, 01:05 PM   #17
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Wonder what he has to say about that 3 years cadet to captain in a day stuff.
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Old October 31 2013, 03:28 PM   #18
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According to internet sources, there are over 1000 people named James Kirk in the U.S. It's not surprising that at least one of them is a Navy captain. Maybe there's a Capt. James Kirk in the Army, Air Force or Marine Corps as well. Or in a local police department somewhere.
When I served in the Air Force, I knew a Captain Kirk. I also knew a Major Battle and when he was promoted to Lt. Colonel Battle it just wasn't the same.
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Old October 31 2013, 03:32 PM   #19
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The question is, how many of the parents of those 1000 James Kirks actually named them James because they are Star Trek fans?
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Old October 31 2013, 03:35 PM   #20
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I think it would be great just to be able to say "This is Captain James Kirk - commanding the USS Zumwalt". I wish him and the ship much success.
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Old October 31 2013, 03:35 PM   #21
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Its commissioning is a bit of a ways off and a pretty different requirement from commanding destroyers, but it would be awesome if he got command of the next Enterprise. Make it happen, US Navy.
That will so never happen. They haven't sent 45 year old black shoe captains to flight school since about 1930. In 12 years he will probably be too senior to even fly his flag in her. They should have started planning all this around the time Star Trek VI came out.

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Has he been aiming for captain his whole time in service?
I think that's pretty safe to assume. On the way to admiral, anyway.

Kind of funny to see an O-6 commanding a "destroyer." I know it's huge, but only about 150 crew.
You sound like someone that know's what he's talking about

Senior Captains for a pre-commissioning gig aren't that uncommon.

That experience, especially with this "thing" is preferred. Remember, all the instructions/policies for this class ship are going to start from scratch.

My only reservations about this DDG is the cost.
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Old October 31 2013, 04:06 PM   #22
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J.T.B. wrote: View Post
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Its commissioning is a bit of a ways off and a pretty different requirement from commanding destroyers, but it would be awesome if he got command of the next Enterprise. Make it happen, US Navy.
That will so never happen. They haven't sent 45 year old black shoe captains to flight school since about 1930. In 12 years he will probably be too senior to even fly his flag in her. They should have started planning all this around the time Star Trek VI came out.
I'd read that carries are only ever captained by naval aviators (or former ones) but never looked into.

Gather it was a bit of a turf thing - to stop the "old" navy from taking over the new guys?
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Old October 31 2013, 04:46 PM   #23
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Old October 31 2013, 05:30 PM   #24
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Finally, Capt. Kirk has his cloaking device


http://fox2now.com/2013/10/31/finall...oaking-device/

The Zumwalt can’t travel into deep space like the Starship Enterprise, but it does have a feature that the fictional Capt. Kirk coveted. On the television series, the captain once stole a “cloaking device” from a Romulan ship that effectively made the Enterprise “disappear” from their enemies’ eyes.

While the Zumwalt cannot completely disappear, its canopy and the rest of the ship is built on angles that help make it 50 times harder to spot on radar than an ordinary destroyer.
Hard to believe this is happening
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Old October 31 2013, 10:34 PM   #25
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After about a decade of seeing various versions of artwork for this ship, it's odd seeing the actual thing.

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Old November 1 2013, 04:52 PM   #26
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After about a decade of seeing various versions of artwork for this ship, it's odd seeing the actual thing.

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Agreed; I never expected to see her. She certainly looks better "in person" than the art ever made he look. I am wondering how stable she is though, considering that her hull is basically the reverse shape of any other ship's hull in existence.
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Old November 1 2013, 04:58 PM   #27
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Senior Captains for a pre-commissioning gig aren't that uncommon.

That experience, especially with this "thing" is preferred. Remember, all the instruction for this class are going to start from scratch.
I was wondering if that was the case, thanks. I realize he'll be more of a project manager than a skipper.

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I'd read that carries are only ever captained by naval aviators (or former ones) but never looked into.

Gather it was a bit of a turf thing - to stop the "old" navy from taking over the new guys?
Mostly the result of some smart people taking a serious look at how the aviation services should be run post-WW1: Would the army and navy keep their air forces, or would they be split off and mashed together in a new independent air force? And if they kept them separate, how would they be integrated into the parent service? They realized traditional "seaman" line officers would be out of their depth trying to manage the aviation aspects of an aviation command, so Congress made it a law that only naval aviators or aviation observers could command a carrier (or seaplane tender, or air station). Because the WW1-era fliers were nowhere near senior enough to command a major vessel, the navy "drafted" a number of senior, middle-aged line officers to go through flight school and qualify. That is how top WW2 admirals Ernest King, Bill Halsey, Richmond Kelly Turner and John S. McCain got their wings.

Naval Flight Officers (non-pilots) also qualify and are quite common as carrier skippers nowadays. "Back in my day" the battle group commander was also a carrier division commander and so was always an aviation officer as well. They changed that in the '90s so black shoes could also apply.

Black shoe = surface sailors
Brown shoe = aviation
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Old November 1 2013, 05:07 PM   #28
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Is this Captain Kirk actually a Trek fan?
I wouldn't blame if he wasn't. You know he's had to have gotten plenty of ribbing over the years over his name just cause he's in the navy.
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Old November 1 2013, 06:22 PM   #29
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. . . She certainly looks better "in person" than the art ever made he look. I am wondering how stable she is though, considering that her hull is basically the reverse shape of any other ship's hull in existence.
The Zumwalt's hull shape isn't really anything new.



The tumblehome hull sides and reverse-rake or "ram" bow have both advantages and disadvantages.

Wiki article: Tumblehome
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Old November 1 2013, 09:55 PM   #30
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During the US Civil War, there was a COL James T. Kirk, son of George Kirk of Pennsylvania.
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