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Old November 21 2013, 11:35 PM   #61
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. . .cannibalism. . .
Good question. You'd have to ask them. I'd have to imagine it would at least be more socially acceptable.
I only thought of that because I used to have a role-playing character that I developed a backstory for. She was from a cannibal tribe, and it had religious significance for them. They'd eat the raw flesh of friends and loved ones after death in some big ritual banquet. They believed that allowed the departed's soul to live on in them. For enemies though, they would cook the flesh first, believing that destroyed the soul. Part of the inspiration for the backstory had to do with reading about an actual tribe discovered in 1914, though I think the raw/cooked business was my invention.
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Old November 21 2013, 11:48 PM   #62
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. . .cannibalism. . .
Good question. You'd have to ask them. I'd have to imagine it would at least be more socially acceptable.
I only thought of that because I used to have a role-playing character that I developed a backstory for. She was from a cannibal tribe, and it had religious significance for them. They'd eat the raw flesh of friends and loved ones after death in some big ritual banquet. They believed that allowed the departed's soul to live on in them. For enemies though, they would cook the flesh first, believing that destroyed the soul. Part of the inspiration for the backstory had to do with reading about an actual tribe discovered in 1914, though I think the raw/cooked business was my invention.
Well in the case of your RP character, I don't think that'd exactly count unless she's friends with the test tubes.
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Old November 26 2013, 09:19 PM   #63
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Will people hundreds of years from now consider this request repulsive?

Will factory farming still exist?


Think I will just stick to my Soilent Green washed down with a large glass of Tatooine Blue Milk
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Old November 28 2013, 12:11 AM   #64
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Do people really believe plants feel the same was as animals do, or is it just something to say to annoy vegans? I've never found scientific evidence that points to plants experiencing pain - I mean, they lack a central nervous system.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:25 AM   #65
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Plants are living things no less than animals. Whether they experience pain is irrelevant to that fact.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:43 AM   #66
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Plants are living things no less than animals. Whether they experience pain is irrelevant to that fact.
Is it irrelevant? Vegans don't want to cause pain or suffering to any animal as far as possible. Plants aren't animals and don't suffer (as far as we know.) It's not about having a perfect ideology of veganism that is impenetrable to inconsistencies: it's about limiting pain
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Old November 28 2013, 12:47 AM   #67
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If you're going to rule out once living things, that either limits us perhaps to fruit, nuts, berries, and honey (since natural water from a stream has microscopic life forms), or starving to death.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:48 AM   #68
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Plants are living things no less than animals. Whether they experience pain is irrelevant to that fact.
Is it irrelevant? Vegans don't want to cause pain or suffering to any animal as far as possible. Plants aren't animals and don't suffer (as far as we know.) It's not about having a perfect ideology of veganism that is impenetrable to inconsistencies: it's about limiting pain
So, their lives are irrelevant to you, enjoy.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:51 AM   #69
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If you're going to rule out once living things, that either limits us perhaps to fruit, nuts, berries, and honey (since natural water from a stream has microscopic life forms), or starving to death.
*shrug* I just don't get why people apparently object to vegans eating plants. Like I said, it's about not causing animals harm, to the best of human ability. Maybe you (general you) think it's an arbitrary delineation, but hey - that's just how vegans do.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:53 AM   #70
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Plants are living things no less than animals. Whether they experience pain is irrelevant to that fact.
Is it irrelevant? Vegans don't want to cause pain or suffering to any animal as far as possible. Plants aren't animals and don't suffer (as far as we know.) It's not about having a perfect ideology of veganism that is impenetrable to inconsistencies: it's about limiting pain
So, their lives are irrelevant to you, enjoy.
Whut? Why so defensive over plants - do you not eat them at all?
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Old November 28 2013, 12:54 AM   #71
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If you're going to rule out once living things, that either limits us perhaps to fruit, nuts, berries, and honey (since natural water from a stream has microscopic life forms), or starving to death.
*shrug* I just don't get why people apparently object to vegans eating plants. Like I said, it's about not causing animals harm, to the best of human ability. Maybe you (general you) think it's an arbitrary delineation, but hey - that's just how vegans do.
It's not the eating plants, it's the claiming some moral superiority while still eating living things. Some living things are just more equal. It's your hypocrisy that is objectionable.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:57 AM   #72
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If you're going to rule out once living things, that either limits us perhaps to fruit, nuts, berries, and honey (since natural water from a stream has microscopic life forms), or starving to death.
*shrug* I just don't get why people apparently object to vegans eating plants. Like I said, it's about not causing animals harm, to the best of human ability. Maybe you (general you) think it's an arbitrary delineation, but hey - that's just how vegans do.
It's not the eating plants, it's the claiming some moral superiority while still eating living things. Some living things are just more equal.
Who is claiming superiority? As I pointed out, vegans are against exploiting animals. Not plants. You could make a point that it's hyopcritical to not exploit animals, yet still use a computer because that has certain animal-derived components, but I don't see the hypocrisy in what you've argued.
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Old November 28 2013, 12:58 AM   #73
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*shrug* I just don't get why people apparently object to vegans eating plants. Like I said, it's about not causing animals harm, to the best of human ability. Maybe you (general you) think it's an arbitrary delineation, but hey - that's just how vegans do.
It's not the eating plants, it's the claiming some moral superiority while still eating living things. Some living things are just more equal.
Who is claiming superiority? As I pointed out, vegans are against exploiting animals. Not plants. You could make a point that it's hyopcritical to not exploit animals, yet still use a computer because that has certain animal-derived components, but I don't see the hypocrisy in what you've argued.
So, some lives are more equal than others and deserve better treatment. You've said that. Enjoy.
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Old November 28 2013, 01:02 AM   #74
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Everyone does that. So, in turn - enjoy your food, and we'll agree to disagree
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Old November 28 2013, 01:04 AM   #75
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Everyone does that. So, in turn - enjoy your food, and we'll agree to disagree
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