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Old October 29 2013, 12:19 AM   #16
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

One thing's for sure: don't skip the series and watch only the movies.
On average, the series were much better than the movies.

Personally, I'd say go: TOS->TOS movies->TNG->TNG movies->DS9->VOY->ENT.

ENT theoretically fits first in chronological order, but much of it is intended for viewers that are at least familiar with the other series, so it's better watched last.

TOS is very campy by now and the allegories were always a bit too obvious, but there are still some very nice stories in there.
TOS movies are a mixed bag, 2&6 are very good, 1&3 are boring, 4 is extremely stupid (but fun), 5 a good idea poorly executed.

TNG starts off poorly, season 1 is weak... but it picks up after that, some extremely nice writing in latter seasons.
TNG movies... 7&9 are poor, 8 is great, 10 I liked but most people didn't.

DS9 is a wide departure from the series. To be honest, it could be a wholly unrelated show with but a change of costumes and names.
Still, for all its anti-Trek message and religious propaganda, it has some great writing at times. Some terrible writing as well.

VOY could be skipped, frankly.
A few nice episodes (Blink of an Eye, The Void, Year of Hell) a series does not make.

ENT starts pretty average, I found. Nothing great in S1-2, but not much bad either.
S3 is poorer, S4 improved significantly. I loved where they were going in season 4.
In fact, it's a shame it had to be cancelled at that point, as what S4 showed us had a lot of potential.

The new movies aren't Trek. They're just action movies. Nothing wrong with that per se, but to me that's not Trek.
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Old October 29 2013, 04:05 AM   #17
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I'm not sure. It's confusing to follow. I'm not sure if I should follow that one reply? Or another answer?
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Old October 29 2013, 04:33 AM   #18
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I saw each series during the years they were produced. TOS is really where the whole concept of a Trek universe begins, so you'll be able to see how storytelling and the universe's themes have changed with each successive series.

Definitely watch the 1st season's "Space Seed", as the film STII: The Wrath of Khan is based on it, even bringing back the same guest star. Episodes of ENT's 4th season also reference it, as does Star Trek: Into Darkness (which I've still not seen).
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Old October 29 2013, 04:45 AM   #19
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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I'm not sure. It's confusing to follow. I'm not sure if I should follow that one reply? Or another answer?
Don't feel like you have to watch everything I listed before. Sample some of the better episodes and see which shows you prefer. If TOS seems too dated for you feel free to skip to the movies and later shows.

I got into Star Trek with the movies and TNG and those are what I usually recommend to people who are just starting out. My favourite shows are DS9 and TNG but as others have said it takes a couple of seasons before they get good.

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Old October 29 2013, 07:17 AM   #20
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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I'm not sure. It's confusing to follow. I'm not sure if I should follow that one reply? Or another answer?
The thing is, you ask a ten different people you'll get eleven different answers. I can give you my opinion, others can give you theirs, but in the end you have to watch the episodes and decide for yourself if they're good.
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Old October 29 2013, 12:23 PM   #21
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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I'm not sure. It's confusing to follow. I'm not sure if I should follow that one reply? Or another answer?
The thing is, you ask a ten different people you'll get eleven different answers. I can give you my opinion, others can give you theirs, but in the end you have to watch the episodes and decide for yourself if they're good.
This is true. Everyone has their favourites. Only you can decide what you like.
Some people say TOS is campy others TNG. If you can't look past the 60s special effects and the 80s clothing then maybe you won't enjoy them.

I think if you are reasonably intelligent you can watch them in any order and pick it up. I'd suggest watching DS9 and VOY and ENT in order for the first half season but really I think you could jump seasons after that.
And the TOS movies should be watched in order but not necessarily the TNG ones (except for NEM - see it last).

Also you could watch any of the series without seeing any of the other series and still get it

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Old October 29 2013, 10:23 PM   #22
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

Here's my order:

1. Scenes from "The Voyage Home" based in the 80's.
2. Scenes from "First Contact" based in the 21st century.
3. ENT
4. TOS
5. TOS movies - for "The Voyage Home", only scenes based in the 23rd century.
6. Scenes from "Generations" based in the 23rd century.
7. TNG
8. DS9
9. VOY
10. TNG movies - for "Generations" & "First Contact", only scenes based in the 24th Century.

*Also divide any episodes which involve time travel into their respective slots. I'm also only including the Prime reality, not NuTrek, as that wasn't the same timeline.
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Old October 30 2013, 08:18 PM   #23
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

I decided I rather watch everything. What is the difference to watch between chronological order and by release order? When I say watch everything I mean all seasons and all episodes and all series and all movies except for one and the one I don't want to watch is TAS, everything else I do want to watch. Now, since I made up my mind for everything, which post should I follow that has everything listed in order?

Thank you so much to everyone!
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Old October 30 2013, 08:57 PM   #24
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

You don't have to follow any particular suggestion. You could sample a little bit from each series until you find a storytelling style that fits your own preference, then focus on that series first. I tend to recommend TOS as a starting point, as that's the one I first saw back in its day.
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Old October 30 2013, 09:01 PM   #25
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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I decided I rather watch everything. What is the difference to watch between chronological order and by release order? When I say watch everything I mean all seasons and all episodes and all series and all movies except for one and the one I don't want to watch is TAS, everything else I do want to watch. Now, since I made up my mind for everything, which post should I follow that has everything listed in order?

Thank you so much to everyone!
For the first time, I'd go with release date as an order rather than chronological order. Enterprise takes place the earliest, but you'll get the most out of watching it if you watch TOS and TNG first as it ties in to them at a lot of places.
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Old October 30 2013, 09:28 PM   #26
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I decided I rather watch everything. What is the difference to watch between chronological order and by release order? When I say watch everything I mean all seasons and all episodes and all series and all movies except for one and the one I don't want to watch is TAS, everything else I do want to watch. Now, since I made up my mind for everything, which post should I follow that has everything listed in order?

Thank you so much to everyone!
For the first time, I'd go with release date as an order rather than chronological order. Enterprise takes place the earliest, but you'll get the most out of watching it if you watch TOS and TNG first as it ties in to them at a lot of places.
So, release date order would be the order I originally posted when I opened this thread, right? Or if not, than could you please post the complete release date order for the TV shows and movies?
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Old October 30 2013, 09:45 PM   #27
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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I decided I rather watch everything. What is the difference to watch between chronological order and by release order? When I say watch everything I mean all seasons and all episodes and all series and all movies except for one and the one I don't want to watch is TAS, everything else I do want to watch. Now, since I made up my mind for everything, which post should I follow that has everything listed in order?

Thank you so much to everyone!
For the first time, I'd go with release date as an order rather than chronological order. Enterprise takes place the earliest, but you'll get the most out of watching it if you watch TOS and TNG first as it ties in to them at a lot of places.
So, release date order would be the order I originally posted when I opened this thread, right? Or if not, than could you please post the complete release date order for the TV shows and movies?
Correct sir. Though after you watch TOS, I'd watch the first six movies before jumping into The Next Generation.
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Old October 30 2013, 10:07 PM   #28
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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Here's my order:

1. Scenes from "The Voyage Home" based in the 80's.
2. Scenes from "First Contact" based in the 21st century.
3. ENT
4. TOS
5. TOS movies - for "The Voyage Home", only scenes based in the 23rd century.
6. Scenes from "Generations" based in the 23rd century.
7. TNG
8. DS9
9. VOY
10. TNG movies - for "Generations" & "First Contact", only scenes based in the 24th Century.

*Also divide any episodes which involve time travel into their respective slots. I'm also only including the Prime reality, not NuTrek, as that wasn't the same timeline.

You forgot the 1890's portion of Time's Arrow (TNG), the 1930's portion of The City on the Edge of Forever (TOS), the 1960's portions of Tomorrow is Yesterday (TOS) and Assignment: Earth (TOS), the 1990's portion of Future's End (VOY), the 2020's portion of Past Prologue (DS9) and the 23rd century portion of Trials and Tribble-ations (DS9).

God, I know way to much about something that has no practical value...

EDIT: There's also the early-21st century portion of Carpenter Street (ENT), the 26th century portion of Azati Prime (ENT) and the 31st century portions of Shockwave (ENT) and Living Witness (VOY).

EDIT II: There's also the "Big Bang" portion of Death Wish (VOY) and the primordial Earth portion of All Good Things (TNG).
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Old October 30 2013, 10:13 PM   #29
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For the first time, I'd go with release date as an order rather than chronological order. Enterprise takes place the earliest, but you'll get the most out of watching it if you watch TOS and TNG first as it ties in to them at a lot of places.
So, release date order would be the order I originally posted when I opened this thread, right? Or if not, than could you please post the complete release date order for the TV shows and movies?
Correct sir. Though after you watch TOS, I'd watch the first six movies before jumping into The Next Generation.
Thank you!
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Old October 31 2013, 12:29 AM   #30
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Re: What order should the TV series and movies be watched in?

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So, release date order would be the order I originally posted when I opened this thread, right? Or if not, than could you please post the complete release date order for the TV shows and movies?
Well, if you want to be precise, the release date order (excluding TAS) is:
01. TOS (1966-1969)
02. The Motion Picture (1979)
03. The Wrath of Khan (1982)
04. The Search for Spock (1984)
05. The Voyage Home (1986)
06. TNG season 1 (1987/8)
07. TNG season 2 & The Final Frontier (1989)
08. TNG season 3 (1990)
09. TNG season 4 & The Undiscovered Country (1991)
10. TNG season 5 (1992)
11. TNG season 6 & DS9 season 1 (1993)
12. TNG season 7 & DS9 season 2 & Generations (1994)
13. DS9 season 3 & VOY season 1 (1995)
14. DS9 season 4 & VOY season 2 & First Contact (1996)
15. DS9 season 5 & VOY season 3 (1997)
16. DS9 season 6 & VOY season 4 & Insurrection (1998)
17. DS9 season 7 & VOY season 5 (1999)
18. VOY season 6 (2000)
19. VOY season 7 & ENT season 1 (2001/2)
20. ENT season 2 & Nemesis (2003)
21. ENT seasons 3-4 (2004-2005)

But it's of course an unnecessary hassle to follow it that way, just go TOS->TOS movies->TNG->TNG movies->DS9->VOY->ENT
Still, interesting to see how much was going on at the same time.
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