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Old November 27 2013, 11:26 PM   #46
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"surgery to fully repair both..." -- both what??
"Fully both," not "fully repair." Word order matters.

Rose required surgery to both sew the tear back together, as well as to fully reattach the cartilage back to the inner part of his knee.
Ohhhh. The cartilage was torn away from the bone. I'm surprised he could even walk off the court. The pain must have been tremendous. I don't think I can recall a case where the cartilage had to be reattached to the bone. It sounds pretty freakish. Too bad.

Out for the year (in November) -- I knew it had to be more than just a simple tear.
He could have had surgery to simply repair the tear, which would have kept him on the shelf for maybe two months. The problem is that he risked even worse injury to his knee had he done so, and had he wrecked it even worse he could have had his career end.

Rose is a player with a dynamic style, but the problem is that his frame has never been built for such a style. It's not an unrealistic prediction to think he's the next Grant Hill or Penny Hardaway.
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Old December 4 2013, 07:27 AM   #47
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That was one of the best basketball comebacks I've ever seen. Down 27 points in the second half and the Warriors win by 9. Steph Curry is so clutch. Some of the shots he was taking reminded me of the playoffs last year and that was such a playoff crowd in the 4th quarter.
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Old December 5 2013, 02:29 PM   #48
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As George Blaha says, "don't look now..." but the Pistons are the 6th seed in the Eastern Conference and one game away from .500. They just won a roadie back-to-back against the MIAMI HEAT and Milwaukee Bucks (after having to fly to Chicago and bus into Milwaukee).

Andre Drummond, during this 3-game winning streak, has these stat lines:

vs. Philadelphia: 31 points, 19 rebounds, 6 steals, and 2 blocks (first such game since Hakeem Olajuwon in 1990).
@ Miami: 10 points, 18 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block.
@ Milwaukee: 24 points, 19 rebounds, 2 steals, 3 blocks.

The average? 21.7 ppg, 18.7 rpg, 3.33 steals, and 2.00 blocks.

Those are Dwight Howard-type numbers. He's 20 years old and has no post game to speak of. He is doing this off lobs, dunks, and put-backs. Can you imagine? 8 teams passed on him in the draft. All that size and athleticism.

That's leaving out Rodney Stuckey, who has not scored less than 16 points off the bench (2nd in the NBA in bench scoring), in 11 of the last 12 games.

That's leaving out Greg Monroe, almost an afterthought now, who had 17 points and 18 rebounds against the Bucks.

That's leaving out Josh Smith. And Kyle Singler (who led the team in scoring in Miami).

That's leaving out Brandon Jennings who is a much better passer (8.4 assists per game so far) than people give him credit for.

They are doing this together and they are winning now. Their defense is improving. The Pistons, if they continue to grow, could be a second-round knockout this season after not making the playoffs since 2009 and not winning a playoff game since 2008.

It's early, but I like the early returns.
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Old December 5 2013, 05:49 PM   #49
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You did it beating Philly (I'm a fan of Spencer Hawes, but he's not a dominating big man, he's a three point shooter), Miami (their center has always been their weak spot), and Bucks (I admittedly know nothing about the Bucks, but their record is bad).

I certainly would be optimistic after that, but, like you said, it's still early.
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Old December 5 2013, 09:29 PM   #50
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You did it beating Philly (I'm a fan of Spencer Hawes, but he's not a dominating big man, he's a three point shooter), Miami (their center has always been their weak spot), and Bucks (I admittedly know nothing about the Bucks, but their record is bad).

I certainly would be optimistic after that, but, like you said, it's still early.
That's what makes me so optimistic. Looking at the frontline (4s and 5s) of the rest of the Eastern Conference, I would take ours over anyone, including the Indiana Pacers. These guys mature together, and stay together, they are built to beat the Miami Heat and the Indiana Pacers. Now whether they need to get past those two teams in 3 years or not, a lot of what-ifs. But the shooting and the defense catch up, they can make some noise as soon as next year.
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Old December 6 2013, 12:46 AM   #51
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Oh boy, Knicks-Nets on the big TNT game this week. I'd be excited, assuming it was 15 or 20 years ago.

Good thing I've got something to read.
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Old December 6 2013, 01:21 AM   #52
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You did it beating Philly (I'm a fan of Spencer Hawes, but he's not a dominating big man, he's a three point shooter), Miami (their center has always been their weak spot), and Bucks (I admittedly know nothing about the Bucks, but their record is bad).

I certainly would be optimistic after that, but, like you said, it's still early.
That's what makes me so optimistic. Looking at the frontline (4s and 5s) of the rest of the Eastern Conference, I would take ours over anyone, including the Indiana Pacers. These guys mature together, and stay together, they are built to beat the Miami Heat and the Indiana Pacers. Now whether they need to get past those two teams in 3 years or not, a lot of what-ifs. But the shooting and the defense catch up, they can make some noise as soon as next year.
My only point is anyone could look like Dwight Howard when going against the Sixers and Bucks and quite possibly the Heat.
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Old December 6 2013, 02:18 AM   #53
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You did it beating Philly (I'm a fan of Spencer Hawes, but he's not a dominating big man, he's a three point shooter), Miami (their center has always been their weak spot), and Bucks (I admittedly know nothing about the Bucks, but their record is bad).

I certainly would be optimistic after that, but, like you said, it's still early.
That's what makes me so optimistic. Looking at the frontline (4s and 5s) of the rest of the Eastern Conference, I would take ours over anyone, including the Indiana Pacers. These guys mature together, and stay together, they are built to beat the Miami Heat and the Indiana Pacers. Now whether they need to get past those two teams in 3 years or not, a lot of what-ifs. But the shooting and the defense catch up, they can make some noise as soon as next year.
My only point is anyone could look like Dwight Howard when going against the Sixers and Bucks and quite possibly the Heat.
My point is that I watched the games and what he did was brilliant, I don't care if he was playing me.
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Old December 6 2013, 02:21 AM   #54
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Oh boy, Knicks-Nets on the big TNT game this week. I'd be excited, assuming it was 15 or 20 years ago.

Good thing I've got something to read.
Ditto. Have you seen the ABC schedule? Chicago and New York are all over it. As are the Lakers. It's going to be like 1996.
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Old December 6 2013, 04:51 AM   #55
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That's what makes me so optimistic. Looking at the frontline (4s and 5s) of the rest of the Eastern Conference, I would take ours over anyone, including the Indiana Pacers. These guys mature together, and stay together, they are built to beat the Miami Heat and the Indiana Pacers. Now whether they need to get past those two teams in 3 years or not, a lot of what-ifs. But the shooting and the defense catch up, they can make some noise as soon as next year.
My only point is anyone could look like Dwight Howard when going against the Sixers and Bucks and quite possibly the Heat.
My point is that I watched the games and what he did was brilliant, I don't care if he was playing me.
Ummm, ok. That's nice. I said it's too early to tell, but he at least gave reasons to be optimistic. If he were playing you, I'd just say you were nuts (unless you're really good at Basketball and should be playing professionally). My whole point was not to get ahead of yourself when he had three good matchups that work well for someone with size and raw athleticism. If he develops more of a post game, that'll be entirely different, but at least have some perspective as to what's happened so far.
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Old December 8 2013, 09:47 PM   #56
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Oh boy, Knicks-Nets on the big TNT game this week. I'd be excited, assuming it was 15 or 20 years ago.

Good thing I've got something to read.
Ditto. Have you seen the ABC schedule? Chicago and New York are all over it. As are the Lakers. It's going to be like 1996.
ABC knows where the ratings are.
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Old December 9 2013, 02:14 AM   #57
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http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=438544

This is why I can't watch basketball. The Raptors can't decide whether they should blow it up or try and compete or what. This team is a joke.
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Old December 25 2013, 09:28 PM   #58
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Good Lord what are those costumes they are wearing today?
They look some sort of futuristic space age mess you'd find on a TV show.
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Old December 29 2013, 01:18 AM   #59
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Not that THIS should surprise anyone... but man what a waste of talent and opportunity. Andrew Bynum has tremendous talent, and Cleveland still has a good young nucleus. If he were to ever get his head on straight, they could make some nosie in the Eastern conference.
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Old December 29 2013, 01:45 AM   #60
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Conduct detrimental to the team? Was he bowling again?

OK, more seriously, that's surprising. While he seemed to have a bit of a lackluster enthusiasm in Philadelphia, I never had any doubt that he was injured and couldn't play. So I never got the impression he had an unhealthy attitude that would lead to a team suspending him. Really an unfortunate waste of a career.
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