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Old October 29 2013, 04:14 AM   #31
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

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Your understanding of those terms doesn't guarantee that the people describing the Xindi as insectoid or primate are using the terms literally.
The fact remains that the different species of Xindi have differences in their anatomy and biology that are just too far different for them to be closely related. We see no closely related species on Earth that are so wildly different. As I said before, it would be impossible for the different species of Xindi to be closely related unless evolution worked in a very different way on Xindus. And, as I also said, that is practically impossible.
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Old October 29 2013, 05:08 PM   #32
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

It's far more likely than a transporter accident is two cause two radically different species to reconstitute into one stable hybrid with the union of their memories and skills. Come on, this is Star Trek! In the Star Trek universe, a black hole has the gravity of several solar masses even if the mass of the black hole is only a few ounces.

You could argue that a good deal of the genes they have in common make up the prefrontal cortex and the upright skeletal structure. Maybe reptilian is just the human translation of a Xindi word and the similarities to earth reptiles are superficial. Also maybe the aquatics and insectoids are farther removed genetically than the other three.
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Old November 3 2013, 01:09 AM   #33
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

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I'd say it's not realistic. I was peeved when Phlox said the replitian and primate as closely related as we are to the neanderthals. We look very similar to the neanderthals...
The Reptilian Xindi looks an awful lot like the Primate Xindi. The skin's different and there's some minor anatomy changes, but, heck, black wolves and bichons frise are the same species, and they barely share much in appearance besides ``quadruped animal''.
No. They don't. Not even similar enough to be in the same genus. You mentioned those "minor anatomy changes". They shouldn't all occur within the same genus.

If you shaved both wolves and Bichons, they'd look a lot alike. Bichons are just morbidly inbred dwarf wolves with genes that encourage wooly white hair and floppy ears. Floppy ears are often found in domesticated animals.
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Old November 3 2013, 11:11 PM   #34
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

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No. They don't. Not even similar enough to be in the same genus. You mentioned those "minor anatomy changes". They shouldn't all occur within the same genus.

If you shaved both wolves and Bichons, they'd look a lot alike. Bichons are just morbidly inbred dwarf wolves with genes that encourage wooly white hair and floppy ears. Floppy ears are often found in domesticated animals.
I nevertheless feel confident in saying that if one shaved off the outer later of latex appliqués one would see compelling anatomical similarities between a Xindi-Reptilian and a Xindi-Primate.
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Old November 4 2013, 12:59 AM   #35
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

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No. They don't. Not even similar enough to be in the same genus. You mentioned those "minor anatomy changes". They shouldn't all occur within the same genus.

If you shaved both wolves and Bichons, they'd look a lot alike. Bichons are just morbidly inbred dwarf wolves with genes that encourage wooly white hair and floppy ears. Floppy ears are often found in domesticated animals.
I nevertheless feel confident in saying that if one shaved off the outer later of latex appliqués one would see compelling anatomical similarities between a Xindi-Reptilian and a Xindi-Primate.
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Old November 4 2013, 02:51 AM   #36
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Re: Did the Xindi all evolve on 1 planet?

Earth reptiles also don't have prefrontal cortices and walk upright.
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